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Well, the biggest difference is that in places like Western Europe, Japan & South Korea, civilians aren't really allowed to own handguns. So, when the police make a traffic stop or respond to a call, they are generally very certain that they aren't dealing with a suspect that has a gun. That likely makes everyone involved less jumpy and less likely to make rash decisions. About the worst that they would encounter in the UK or Japan would be knives, as knifings apparently do happen at a decent rate in the UK. Still, it creates a totally different environment and I do believe a decent percentage of their officers don't even carry guns as a result, since they know they won't encounter suspects with guns. Now, I am not saying that I am anti-gun (before anyone jumps on me) but I just wanted to explain the primary cultural difference.
And this explains choking people to death or kn feeling on their necks until dead, how?
Listen I love to shoot. I grew up in a home where we started shooting at 5 years old.
We have a problem where for years, before the cell camera and body cams, where the cop basically could just say self defense. We need to understand why so many unarmed people are shot by the police, choked by the police, beaten by the police or mistreated in general.
One way to make headway is to have an outside agency investigate any cop related deaths. It takes away that perception of inequity. What doesn't work and it should be common sense is that allowing the police to police themselves doesn't work. Not because they are always covering crimes up for each other, but due to the very obvious conflict of interests.
And this explains choking people to death or kn feeling on their necks until dead, how?
One way to make headway is to have an outside agency investigate any cop related deaths. It takes away that perception of inequity. What doesn't work and it should be common sense is that allowing the police to police themselves doesn't work. Not because they are always covering crimes up for each other, but due to the very obvious conflict of interests.
I wasn't trying to explain choking someone or kneeling on their necks. I would say it is pretty much a given that deaths involving the police are almost certainly overwhelmingly shootings, which is why I focused on guns in that particular post.
What do you consider to be an "outside agency" for investigative purposes? In the case being discussed here (the Brooks case), the Atlanta police had to call "GBI", which I am sure stands for Georgia Bureau of Investigation. They are a state agency that specifically investigates these types of incidents so that the investigation isn't handle by the department (APD) involved and potentially covered up but is handled by a 3rd party - GBI. Are you wanting someone other than GBI to investigate police-related shootings in Georgia?
Our society is asking and expecting police officers to enforce laws, and sometimes have to inflict necessary violence in order to enforce law on our behalf. Yet, you are expecting police to hold to the exact same standard like a regular citizen? Do you call neighbor or friend to deal with a drunk or people with potential for violence?
NO, I expect that the police be held to a higher standard than we would hold a thug. Other first world police departments seem to manage policing their populations without the necessity to overlook excesses or give license to them.
No I don't call my neighbor to deal with criminals. If I did that I would be as bad as the idiots that killed Arbery and I would be arrested for it.
Look I get that the police have a tough job. I respect most cops and have several that I call friend. Hell my personal shooting range was an informal range for most of the local cops in my area.I can also tell you that many of them were barely familiar with their side arms. Looking for the safety at times. If I was king I would demand a higher level of knowledge.
Do you feel that it is acceptable for cops to investigate you like you are the next mass murder, with a tenacity likely to leave your name ruined and financially destitute, but when they investigate each other, its a different approach?
All I am saying is that the police need to be held accountable for when they screw up. People are dying needlessly. I have seen nothing yet that indicates that Brooks was a deadly threat. If Tasers are so deadly why do cops use them so often claiming it is non-lethal force?
Brooks was a waste of human flesh. The cops were exemplary up until the shooting. Was that shooting their only recourse? Don't you think that shooting someone should be their only recourse when they do it? Other first world nations think so.
Trump can only pardon if its under federal jurisdiction if its State then its up to Kemp to pardon him.
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