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Old 06-29-2020, 02:39 PM
 
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the move from 20% to 33% of ICU patients being under 50 may just be an artifact of having more infections in under 50 population.
That’s true, the 1 in 3 in ICU are under 50 could be an artifact of increased % of those hospitalized being under 50. Still, why are we seeing a drift downward in median age of those hospitalized for COVID? Being hospitalized is not insignificant. Is it because the prevalence of COVID in the <50 group in Houston is much higher than previously thought, leading to increased numbers hospitalized? Or are we dealing with a more virulent strain? Hard to say with the limited information but both possibilities are very concerning.
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Old 06-29-2020, 02:45 PM
 
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There have "Even been reports". You people are truly unbelievable.

That is not science. Just because there is a report, it does not follow that the "report" is accurate, or that the reports mean what you want them to mean.

In fact, those "reports" initially came from tests done in South Korea. The scientists there were careful to initially say they had not established a verified explanation for the apparent descrepency at the time. But a few weeks later, they did.

It turns out the tests were 'False positives':

Also, just because someone with the title of a "scientist" says something, it does not follow that what they are saying is correct, or that it is "science" or "scientific". The same applies to information published in a "scientific" journal, many of which have become as corrupted by politics and other agendas as every other part of our society.

So there is still no new "science" with regards to immunity. There are wild "reports" and speculations, as illustrated above.

Democrat leftists have become breathtakingly irresponsible and deceitful. They are not trustworthy and they are truly unbelievable, as demonstrated here in this thread, yet again.
Wow, I can’t imagine the degree of mental gymnastics it takes to be this anti-science. The experts have literally told you durable immunity is unknown in this strain. They have also explained how immunity in similar human coronaviruses varies dramatically depending on the virus and other clinical factors. They have also told you there is currently NO serologic marker that can be tested that informs an individual on their immunity status.

Can we please not politicize this pandemic and face the facts? Wishful thinking is what got Texas and Florida into this mess, a mess that will spill over to other states. The virus doesn’t care whom you plan to vote for this November.
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Old 06-29-2020, 03:05 PM
 
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That’s true, the 1 in 3 in ICU are under 50 could be an artifact of increased % of those hospitalized being under 50. Still, why are we seeing a drift downward in median age of those hospitalized for COVID? Being hospitalized is not insignificant. Is it because the prevalence of COVID in the <50 group in Houston is much higher than previously thought, leading to increased numbers hospitalized? Or are we dealing with a more virulent strain? Hard to say with the limited information but both possibilities are very concerning.

its a simple answer.



more infections mostly in younger people because they are the ones out.

we are two weeks post crazy demonstrations and riots. mostly younger people.



there you go. easy answer.
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Old 06-29-2020, 03:06 PM
 
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its a simple answer.



more infections mostly in younger people because they are the ones out.

we are two weeks post crazy demonstrations and riots. mostly younger people.



there you go. easy answer.
It’s unfortunate you are so intent on politicizing this pandemic. Be well.
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Old 06-29-2020, 03:12 PM
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Houston hospital group CEO says 1 in 3 hospitalized covid patients under 50 require ICU care (previously 1 in 5) and 60% of their hospitalized patients are under 50 (under 40% previously). Are we seeing a more virulent strain? A mutation? A natural selection that selected for a strain that replicates in younger hosts more effectively? I imagine people my generation would take this much more seriously if the longer term impacts of this brand new virus were known. What if it affects long-term cancer risk? What if it leads to sterility?

Texas needs to shut this down: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/29/hous...ng-people.html
Not a problem the GOP leadership has it all covered, 2 aspirin, some bed rest and they'll be fine....
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Old 06-29-2020, 04:03 PM
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The numbers of Covid hospitalized in Houston for today are grim. Got a tiny bit of a reprieve in the last few days, but here are the numbers, which have been increasing since Memorial Day and have reached very high levels:

June 29 (today) 1767 covid patients
June 28 1642 patients
June 27 1691 patients
June 26 1601 patients

The numbers of fatalities are still surprisingly low, considering the high numbers of hospitalized.

All data for Texas can be found here:

https://dshs.texas.gov/coronavirus/a...ZDwUTLJKsT9wZA
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Old 06-29-2020, 04:08 PM
 
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The numbers of Covid hospitalized in Houston for today are grim. Got a tiny bit of a reprieve in the last few days, but here are the numbers, which have been increasing since Memorial Day and have reached very high levels:

June 29 (today) 1767 covid patients
June 28 1642 patients
June 27 1691 patients
June 26 1601 patients

The numbers of fatalities are still surprisingly low, considering the high numbers of hospitalized.

All data for Texas can be found here:

https://dshs.texas.gov/coronavirus/a...ZDwUTLJKsT9wZA
Improved treatments possibly?
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Old 06-29-2020, 06:13 PM
 
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The numbers of Covid hospitalized in Houston for today are grim. Got a tiny bit of a reprieve in the last few days, but here are the numbers, which have been increasing since Memorial Day and have reached very high levels:

June 29 (today) 1767 covid patients
June 28 1642 patients
June 27 1691 patients
June 26 1601 patients

The numbers of fatalities are still surprisingly low, considering the high numbers of hospitalized.

All data for Texas can be found here:

https://dshs.texas.gov/coronavirus/a...ZDwUTLJKsT9wZA
For the US as a whole, the week of June 8th was the bottom for new cases. Typically, it takes about 3-5 weeks after a significant rise in case to see a significant rise in deaths. We know this because that's what we've seen in other countries and what we saw at the beginning of our own numbers during the first wave. Today is exactly 3 weeks later. Last week had a higher peak than the week before. It's going to get rough very fast from this point in all likelihood.
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Old 06-29-2020, 06:31 PM
 
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This is Houston. What we're seeing here is a result of the "Muh rights!" anti-mask crowd. The protests took place elsewhere.

Hopefully Houston (and other hot spots) don't look like how bad it was in Italy a few months ago...
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Old 06-29-2020, 07:22 PM
 
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The places that are seeing some of the biggest spikes are not the same places that saw some of the biggest protests. DC, Minnesota, New York, etc. are not seeing large spikes at all. Based on the timeline of infections and how long it takes for people to be hospitalized and die, these spikes are associated with reopening in states prior to June 1st. There has been no evidence that the protests are the cause. It was instead all of the irresponsible people crowding beaches, going to bars and restaurants, going to malls, going on vacation, having Memorial Day bbq's, attending church services, etc.
They claim it’s from reopening and the crowds for Memorial Day without mentioning that the protests started May 26th. I’d say both play a factor.
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