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Old 07-15-2020, 10:10 PM
 
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14, 15, 16, year olds are not "little", and should have the common sense NOT to go to a strange mans house.


It isn't rocket science.
I am most appreciative that I do not know any people with your perspective.

Just sick.
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Old 07-16-2020, 01:59 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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14, 15, 16, year olds are not "little", and should have the common sense NOT to go to a strange mans house.


It isn't rocket science.
It's really a case of what the law states, and not just US law as some of these allegations were based on events overseas.

The age of consent in the UK is 16, so having sex with a 17 year old is not a criminal offence unless rape, over the channel in France the age is 15, whilst in Germany it is 14, although this carries with a stipulation that some one over 21 does not exploit a 14- to 15-year-old person's lack of capacity for sexual self-determination.

In terms of Maxwell she is charged with grooming three girls for Epstein, as for Prince Andrew it's going to be difficult to prove any case given the lack of evidence and I should imagine that Prince Andrew will be allowed to write a written statement, and any demands from the US may be looked on with disbelief given the recent cases of Anne Sacoolas, Scott Hapgood and Dean Sprouting case.

Sacoolas is wanted on extradition to the UK for Causing death by dangerous driving in 2019 but this has been denied by US Authorities, Hapgood is wanted in the British Overseas territory of Anguilla on murder charges in relation to a 2018 incident and in terms of Dean Sprouting he was a Captain in the British Army killed by a recklessly driven forklift whilst jogging in 2018 on a base in Iraq. Two US soldiers faced three charges including negligent homicide but an American Brigadier General ruled these be dropped.

All three of these recent decisions made by the US were largely based on political interference rather than the law.

So the UK Government may not be very sympathetic to any US demands, and many people in Britain have had enough of the current one way US extradition system.

As for Maxwell she should have fled to France when she had the opportunity, as extradition of French citizens from France to the US is notoriously difficult.

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Old 07-16-2020, 07:18 AM
 
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Absolutely untrue. He flew on the Epstein airplane a number of times but never on a flight to the Island. There are two tenuous reports he was there and no charge of having sex with a young girl.

why don't you check it out and stop telling the lie?
Haha! I think YOU need to check your facts: Did your Liberal News tell you it was a lie?

Though the former president’s copped to flying on Epstein’s private jet, dubbed the “Lolita Express”—and flight logs indicate he flew on the plane at least 26 times, according to the four-part docuseries, including a trip to Africa with Epstein, Kevin Spacey, and Chris Tucker

Well, a number of subjects in Filthy Rich recall seeing Clinton on Little Saint James, Epstein’s private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands. Otherwise known as “Pedophile Island,” it was Epstein’s primary residence—and a place where he took his underage sex-trafficking victims to be assaulted by himself or his influential friends.

“It really is orgy island, because that’s what happened there. That is what that island meant to me,” says Giuffre, while Sarah Ransome, another Epstein victim, alleges that she was raped multiple times by Epstein on the island, including three times in one day.

“I wish, you know, he would just come clean about, like, ‘Yeah, I was there. So what?’”
“Bill Clinton has been on that island,” says Steve Scully, who managed telecommunications for Epstein on Little Saint James from 1999-2005. “I saw Bill Clinton sitting with Jeffrey on the living room porch.”

Giuffre remembers seeing Clinton there as well. “I remember having a dinner with Clinton. He was there.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/netfli...dophile-island

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Old 07-16-2020, 09:52 AM
 
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Did you listen to the audio yesterday?

Did you search the NY database?

Anything would be enough.
I have searched the NY database, there are no females with the last name of Maxwell.
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Old 07-16-2020, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Haha! I think YOU need to check your facts: Did your Liberal News tell you it was a lie?

Though the former president’s copped to flying on Epstein’s private jet, dubbed the “Lolita Express”—and flight logs indicate he flew on the plane at least 26 times, according to the four-part docuseries, including a trip to Africa with Epstein, Kevin Spacey, and Chris Tucker

Well, a number of subjects in Filthy Rich recall seeing Clinton on Little Saint James, Epstein’s private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands. Otherwise known as “Pedophile Island,” it was Epstein’s primary residence—and a place where he took his underage sex-trafficking victims to be assaulted by himself or his influential friends.

“It really is orgy island, because that’s what happened there. That is what that island meant to me,” says Giuffre, while Sarah Ransome, another Epstein victim, alleges that she was raped multiple times by Epstein on the island, including three times in one day.

“I wish, you know, he would just come clean about, like, ‘Yeah, I was there. So what?’”
“Bill Clinton has been on that island,” says Steve Scully, who managed telecommunications for Epstein on Little Saint James from 1999-2005. “I saw Bill Clinton sitting with Jeffrey on the living room porch.”

Giuffre remembers seeing Clinton there as well. “I remember having a dinner with Clinton. He was there.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/netfli...dophile-island

Still with the falsehoods. Your cite exactly states what I said. Clinton flew on the Epstein plane a number of times including some with his SS group. And there are two somewhat tenuous claims that he was seen on the island. But no indication of any interaction with someone underage.

Do you not read your own cites?
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Old 07-16-2020, 11:59 AM
 
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I have searched the NY database, there are no females with the last name of Maxwell.
Try again.

Federal Bureau of Prisons

https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/

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Old 07-16-2020, 12:02 PM
 
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Never mind
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Old 07-16-2020, 12:03 PM
 
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She is married but no one knows to whom, so she is probably listed under her married name for safety.
Nope. Her name is Ghislaine Noelle Maxwell.
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Old 07-16-2020, 12:46 PM
 
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Strange. Both marriage and divorce records are a matter of public record. Thus, there is no secret in having a legally recognized marriage or divorce.

And yet, per NYPOST:

Ghislaine Maxwell is "secretly married" and refusing to reveal her husband’s name. Reports suggest it could be British tech CEO Scott Borgerson. It was also reported last year by Daily Mail that she was living at his oceanfront mansion in Manchester-by-the-Sea, Massachusetts.

So, *shrug*?
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Old 07-16-2020, 01:18 PM
 
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I have searched the NY database, there are no females with the last name of Maxwell.
Try the court document filed. They had a bail hearing.... I listened to it.
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