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Old 07-02-2020, 02:12 PM
 
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https://www.hollywoodintoto.com/cancel-hamilton/


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Sure, “Hamilton” features people of color playing Caucasian leaders like the title character, George Washington and Aaron Burr. The color-blind casting proved a welcome twist when the show first debuted in 2015.


It was woke … for its time. Today? That’s hardly a defense.


This racist nation shouldn’t be celebrated in song, let alone via an award-winning musical honoring its founders. Is there a better way to heal the nation than by demanding Disney Plus remove “Hamilton” as quickly as it unveils it? No warning label could address a production dedicated to slave owners, a la HBO Max’s treatment of “Gone With the Wind.”

I want the AMERICA that I grew up in!


This crap's absolutely nuts
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Old 07-02-2020, 02:13 PM
 
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Cancel america!!!!
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Old 07-02-2020, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I agree Hamilton could be a trigger for the weak minded to complain, protest, pillage and finally seek out a safe space.





Hamilton is a retelling of History so maybe it is ok because they are telling how they want it to be remembered. They are tearing it all down so it needs to be replaced with something.
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Old 07-02-2020, 02:50 PM
 
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These threads confuse me. Am I supposed to be "triggered" at the fact that the left might get "triggered" which would "re-trigger" me?

Are we "Pre-Triggering" before being "Triggered" so when others are "Triggered" we are already ready and "Intra-Triggered" until we are all "Post-Triggered"

Someone explain please.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I watched Hamilton, written and produced by an immigrant from Puerto Rico.

It is mostly a true rendition of history. Hamilton was opposed in theory to slavery:

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Historian John C. Miller insisted, "He [Hamilton] advocated one of the most daring invasions of property rights that was ever made-- the abolition of Negro slavery.[1] Biographer Forest McDonald maintained, "Hamilton was an abolitionist, and on that subject he never wavered."
https://www.varsitytutors.com/earlya...on-and-slavery

His personal ambition limited his theoretical opposition to slavery and he married into a slave holding family.

But I'm not sure how some of you think that the play Hamilton is somehow altering American history. All history is subject to interpretation. Up until now it has just been a "white" interpretation.

I'm betting not a single one of you are aware of the Negro National Anthem of the United States.

Lift ev'ry voice and sing
'Til earth and heaven ring
Ring with the harmonies of Liberty
Let our rejoicing rise
High as the list'ning skies
Let it resound loud as the rolling sea
Sing a song full of the faith that the dark past has taught us
Sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought us
Facing the rising sun of our new day begun
Let us march on 'til victory is won

Stony the road we trod
Bitter the chastening rod
Felt in the days when hope unborn had died
Yet with a steady beat
Have not our weary feet
Come to the place for which our fathers sighed?
We have come over a way that with tears has been watered
We have come, treading our path through the blood of the slaughtered
Out from the gloomy past
'Til now we stand at last
Where the white gleam of of our bright star is cast

God of our weary years
God of our silent tears
Thou who has brought us thus far on the way
Thou who has by Thy might
Led us into the light
Keep us forever in the path, we pray
Lest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met Thee
Lest, our hearts drunk with the wine of the world, we forget Thee
Shadowed beneath Thy hand
May we forever stand
True to our God
True to our native land


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A group of young men in Jacksonville, Florida, arranged to celebrate Lincoln’s birthday in 1900. My brother, J. Rosamond Johnson, and I decided to write a song to be sung at the exercises. I wrote the words and he wrote the music. Our New York publisher, Edward B. Marks, made mimeographed copies for us, and the song was taught to and sung by a chorus of five hundred colored school children.
Shortly afterwards my brother and I moved away from Jacksonville to New York, and the song passed out of our minds. But the school children of Jacksonville kept singing it; they went off to other schools and sang it; they became teachers and taught it to other children. Within twenty years it was being sung over the South and in some other parts of the country.
Source: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poe...voice-and-sing

That's BLACK national history of which most of you are totally unaware.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Originally Posted by Wardendresden View Post
I watched Hamilton, written and produced by an immigrant from Puerto Rico.

It is mostly a true rendition of history. Hamilton was opposed in theory to slavery:

https://www.varsitytutors.com/earlya...on-and-slavery

His personal ambition limited his theoretical opposition to slavery and he married into a slave holding family.

But I'm not sure how some of you think that the play Hamilton is somehow altering American history. All history is subject to interpretation. Up until now it has just been a "white" interpretation.

I'm betting not a single one of you are aware of the Negro National Anthem of the United States.

Lift ev'ry voice and sing
'Til earth and heaven ring
Ring with the harmonies of Liberty
Let our rejoicing rise
High as the list'ning skies
Let it resound loud as the rolling sea
Sing a song full of the faith that the dark past has taught us
Sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought us
Facing the rising sun of our new day begun
Let us march on 'til victory is won

Stony the road we trod
Bitter the chastening rod
Felt in the days when hope unborn had died
Yet with a steady beat
Have not our weary feet
Come to the place for which our fathers sighed?
We have come over a way that with tears has been watered
We have come, treading our path through the blood of the slaughtered
Out from the gloomy past
'Til now we stand at last
Where the white gleam of of our bright star is cast

God of our weary years
God of our silent tears
Thou who has brought us thus far on the way
Thou who has by Thy might
Led us into the light
Keep us forever in the path, we pray
Lest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met Thee
Lest, our hearts drunk with the wine of the world, we forget Thee
Shadowed beneath Thy hand
May we forever stand
True to our God
True to our native land




Source: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poe...voice-and-sing

That's BLACK national history of which most of you are totally unaware.
Dude. Really? People from Puerto Rico are not immigrants. They are born US citizens.

Additionally, Lin Manuel Miranda was born in NYC, not Puerto Rico.

Please get your facts straight.

Thank you.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Dude. Really? People from Puerto Rico are not immigrants. They are born US citizens.

Additionally, Lin Manuel Miranda was born in NYC, not Puerto Rico.

Please get your facts straight.

Thank you.
You are correct about his place of birth. And I assume you are advocating for statehood of Puerto Rico? I do.

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In a 2017 Referendum, more than half a million Puerto Ricans voted for US Statehood. Governor Wanda Vazquez says: "It's never too be late to be treated as equals."
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/world/...-november.html

What about the Negro National Anthem? Old news to you?
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Originally Posted by Wardendresden View Post
You are correct about his place of birth. And I assume you are advocating for statehood of Puerto Rico? I do.

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/world/...-november.html

What about the Negro National Anthem? Old news to you?
No, I’m not advocating for statehood. I’m merely correcting your glaring error here in calling Puerto Ricans “immigrants”.

I don’t acknowledge the “Negro National Anthem” because my country’s national anthem is the Star-Spangled Banner.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Boston
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it's a good show, nobody really thinks anything about it is real I hope. Its entertainment, that is all.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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You are correct about his place of birth. And I assume you are advocating for statehood of Puerto Rico? I do.
Cool. Now maybe go convince enough Puerto Ricans on the island to make state hood a reality for them.

It's THEIR choice. Not yours.



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Originally Posted by Wardendresden
What about the Negro National Anthem? Old news to you?

There is only room for one "national anthem" per nation. Just one.

If you want to pledge allegiance to the black national flag, and sing the black national anthem... you go ahead and do that on your own time.


White folks already tried to give African Americans their own nation, by the way. Only problem was once they (american black folks) got there they took up oppressing the natives of Liberia.
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