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If I'm understanding you correctly you would pull a gun on the woman and her two daughters just like the Wuestenberg's did because you don't accept "Man made law". Are you a sovereign citizen I have seen a few of those in court doesn't end well for them.
I would not pull my gun on the two I would pull my phone out and video record the woman beating my car and blocking my way call police and report her. That is what the Wuestenberg's should have done more then likely the other woman would be charged with disorderly conduct. Then I would file a small claims suit against her for the damages which can go up to $5000.
This is what I'm saying NRA and others have convinced millions to get CCW's and carry guns but they don't understand the risk.
I'm an anarchist, not a "sovereign citizen".
I'm not asking you what you would do in the name of self-preservation. We all operate in that mode. We have to or else an involuntary centralized entity will fine, cage, or kill you with impunity.
Even though there is nothing morally and logically wrong with ingesting "illegal" substances, selling sex for money, having a homemade library stand in your yard I wouldn't do it because again, I will be fined/caged/killed depending on my level of resistance.
I'm asking you who you personally believe is morally and logically in the right in this situation. Forget for a second the ornate buildings downtown filled with folks in costumes stamping papers exists for a second. You personally, what do you believe to be the moral and logical course of action if said circumstances existed?
No I don't want to live in that world which is why I don't live in a location with zealous prosecutors bent on making brownie points.
Well, we all have that cross to bear. Those of us who follow a moral/logical compass of our own which in many respects doesn't jive with the State's penal codes.
It's a logical tactic on your part: avoid the State's web. OTOH, that only goes so far. If your interests conflict with those of the State, even if you aren't violating anyone's rights, you'll be targeted and nailed to that cross post haste.
Even if the one black woman was hitting the car and potentially even damaging it, the couple in the car was [not] in mortal danger. They could have driven a blaock away to a safer location, called the police, and filed charges against the person who may have damaged their car.
Thus pulling a gun and drawing down on someone, is likely a violation of the law.
Who knows what happened prior to when the video clip started, but a lot of emotion and frankly stupidity was involved.
What I find amazing is how ambivalent the black woman who had a gun pointed at her was acting.
Clearly she was trusting her life to a potentially emotional and crazy woman.
That would have been an incredibly stupid way to lose your life.
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I think you meant "not" in mortal danger, as I've inserted.
Does any one here think that aiming the gun at a bystander who is cell phone recording, should be considered when judging the couple's actions? The prosecutor mentioned it in the press release so it may be a factor that tipped the scale in assigning blame. I think there might have been a threat also about the recording but I'm not sure.
If I chanced by, I might have taken out my cell phone, I'd be crazy if someone aimed a gun at me for recording them. I might even demand that they be arrested. Not that it would matter. No I've never had a gun aimed at my head.
In this particular case, the person with the phone was totally involved in the situation, so that point is moot.
In this particular case, the person with the phone was totally involved in the situation, so that point is moot.
There were at least 2 videos that the prosecutor reviewed. Saying that they reviewed the situation from different angles. Were other family members recording?
The question is would any of you pull a gun in the same situation knowing full well you will also face felony charges and the possibly of losing your rights to own firearms forever.
We're discussing this incident in a couple of gun forums that I'm on.
The white woman, as a gun carrier, should have realized she was talking to an ignorant jackass and stopped the back-and-forth completely. She should have just made her way to her vehicle and left.
This is something people who don't actually carry guns and think about the responsibility of being armed don't seem to realize.
"With great power comes great responsibility." If you carry a gun, the primary rule becomes: "Walk away. Just walk away."
We're discussing this incident in a couple of gun forums that I'm on.
The white woman, as a gun carrier, should have realized she was talking to an ignorant jackass and stopped the back-and-forth completely. She should have just made her way to her vehicle and left.
This is something people who don't actually carry guns and think about the responsibility of being armed don't seem to realize.
"With great power comes great responsibility." If you carry a gun, the primary rule becomes: "Walk away. Just walk away."
The only responsibility you have on this planet is to not initiate force against others.
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