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Old 07-09-2020, 06:17 PM
 
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bus man, every city, etc., has home rule powers. If you receive a permit from the city to create art on a street, then that gives the person legal authority. Without that, it is of course a criminal offense.
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:18 PM
 
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The fact of home-rule powers sets up a conflict with the authority that the federal government has claimed for itself in this area:



To my knowledge, this claim of federal supremacy has not been challenged by state or local governments in relation to the jurisdiction of the MUTCD regulations. It seems like it ought to be officially settled, one way or another. Because if I am correct (notice that I said "if"), then the local governments do not have the authority to grant any kind of permit to mark up a public street in any way contrary to the MUTCD.
Does that Manuel cover speed limits?...
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Still had no bearing on this...It doesn’t say one can’t...
You are correct, it doesn't specifically say that you can't. But it does say that whatever is painted on the street needs to be for the purposes of guiding, warning, or regulating traffic; and I don't see how "Black Lives Matter" -- or ANY political slogan -- serves these purposes.
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:21 PM
 
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You are correct, it doesn't specifically say that you can't. But it does say that whatever is painted on the street needs to be for the purposes of guiding, warning, or regulating traffic; and I don't see how "Black Lives Matter" -- or ANY political slogan -- serves these purposes.
Does it indeed say that or are you interpreting that?...
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Does that Manuel cover speed limits?...
No, it does not. That is the province of traffic engineers. (It does, however, cover the design specifications of speed limit signs.)
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:25 PM
 
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F BLM. Deface that racist hustler pimp garbage every chance you get.
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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The states are self-governed...
Yes, I'm aware of that. But the federal government has asserted its supremacy in the area of traffic control devices:

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Q: Does the MUTCD apply to all roads and streets in the United States?
A: Yes. In Title 23 of the Code of Federal Regulations, Part 655.603 states that the MUTCD is the national standard for all traffic control devices installed on any street, highway, or bicycle trail open to public travel.
If the federal government wishes to assert its authority in this matter, the question of whether or not it's legal to paint political slogans on public roads might be a good place for it to do so. Then we'll see who ends up on top.
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:27 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Oh, boo fricken hoo. You mean like all the monuments and statues have been destroyed or defaced? You guys sure stamp your feet and pout when the shoe’s on the other foot.



And why is she wanted by the police? Shouldn’t she be wanted by a social worker?
I'm sure the cops had to toss out some binky to keep these losers from burning more of the city. They are probably sending her thank you cards.
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:27 PM
 
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No, it does not. That is the province of traffic engineers. (It does, however, cover the design specifications of speed limit signs.)
You do know that the states can tell the feds to flip off, don’t you?...Our constitution allows for strong state government and weak central government, this is why each states has its own constitution and governs itself...
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:28 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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You are correct, it doesn't specifically say that you can't. But it does say that whatever is painted on the street needs to be for the purposes of guiding, warning, or regulating traffic; and I don't see how "Black Lives Matter" -- or ANY political slogan -- serves these purposes.
Makes as much sense as painting a mural of the cleveland browns in the street.
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