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Old 07-08-2020, 05:30 AM
 
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The government needs to acquire some balls and stamp a heavy foot down on these rioters. It’s been going on for far too long!
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Old 07-08-2020, 05:48 AM
 
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  1. We are expansive. We are a collective of liberators who believe in an inclusive and spacious movement. We also believe that in order to win and bring as many people with us along the way, we must move beyond the narrow nationalism that is all too prevalent in Black communities. We must ensure we are building a movement that brings all of us to the front.
  2. We affirm the lives of Black ***** and trans folks, disabled folks, undocumented folks, folks with records, women, and all Black lives along the gender spectrum. Our network centers those who have been marginalized within Black liberation movements.
  3. We are working for a world where Black lives are no longer systematically targeted for demise.
  4. We affirm our humanity, our contributions to this society, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/


Where is the crossover or overlap with Marxism, specifically?
Come on, that’s the best research you can do? or maybe you desire to keep you head buried. Or maybe you are one of the marxists and want to keep your true desires hidden. A wolf in sheep’s clothing? You conveniently left out a lot of parts that have history in socialist and Marxist ideas.

In addition, here are two, easy to find articles, one from the mouths of socialists saying BLM represents their interests the other with proof the leaders saying they are “trained marxists”.

What more proof do you need? BLM as an organization is not interested in peace with other ethnicities. They want to steel hard working people’s money and give it to those who don’t want to work and tell you what you can believe and say. You now, know the complete opposite of the foundation of the great USA.


https://disrn.com/news/video-surface...ained-marxists

https://www.socialistworld.net/2020/...list-struggle/
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Old 07-08-2020, 07:17 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Come on, that’s the best research you can do? or maybe you desire to keep you head buried. Or maybe you are one of the marxists and want to keep your true desires hidden. A wolf in sheep’s clothing? You conveniently left out a lot of parts that have history in socialist and Marxist ideas.

In addition, here are two, easy to find articles, one from the mouths of socialists saying BLM represents their interests the other with proof the leaders saying they are “trained marxists”.

What more proof do you need? BLM as an organization is not interested in peace with other ethnicities. They want to steel hard working people’s money and give it to those who don’t want to work and tell you what you can believe and say. You now, know the complete opposite of the foundation of the great USA.


https://disrn.com/news/video-surface...ained-marxists

https://www.socialistworld.net/2020/...list-struggle/

Where does BLM advocate for wealth redistribution?

Yes, the founders are evidently Marxist. And? Bill and Melinda Gates go to a Catholic church - does that make Microsoft a Catholic organization?

Does the author of that "article" from SocialistWorld.net (where do you find these websites?) - Hanna Sell - hold a leadership position within BLM?

Try harder because you're failing miserably to support your assertion.
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Old 07-08-2020, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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If you feel the same way what is the best way to address this situation?
Burn everything down.
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Old 07-08-2020, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Boston
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I can afford to segregate myself from the unwashed masses. Riot on!.
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Old 07-08-2020, 07:36 AM
 
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Where does BLM advocate for wealth redistribution?

Yes, the founders are evidently Marxist. And? Bill and Melinda Gates go to a Catholic church - does that make Microsoft a Catholic organization?

Try harder because you're failing miserably to support your assertion.
I have provided you with proof from a simple 3 minute online search. Why do you continue to deny it? The Microsoft comparison is not equivalent. Microsoft is a publicly traded organization with a board of directors and a bunch of shareholders from a variety of backgrounds that have some say in what the organization does. BLM was started and being run by self-admitted Marxists. They want to implement their form of government in the US, period. It's not hard to find the "we will burn it all down" comment.

Even more alarming, is that BLM is not open to outside council even from people of color. There have been several examples recently where people of color have called into question some of BLM's more extreme desires. They are immediately shut down by BLM, their cohorts in the media, and the extremist SJWs that support BLM, all opinions that BLM said it supports.

Black livers matter, absolutely, but what BLM stands for, I cannot get behind. Our form of capitalism isn't perfect, but it is one of the best in the world, and it sure beats what they have in the remaining Marxist-like countries around the world. The world as a whole is moving away from Marxism and if BLM wants to be legitimate in the future, they need to lose that part of its platform.
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Old 07-08-2020, 07:40 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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I have provided you with proof from a simple 3 minute online search. Why do you continue to deny it? The Microsoft comparison is not equivalent. Microsoft is a publicly traded organization with a board of directors and a bunch of shareholders from a variety of backgrounds that have some say in what the organization does. BLM was started and being run by self-admitted Marxists. They want to implement their form of government in the US, period. It's not hard to find the "we will burn it all down" comment.

Even more alarming, is that BLM is not open to outside council even from people of color. There have been several examples recently where people of color have called into question some of BLM's more extreme desires. They are immediately shut down by BLM, their cohorts in the media, and the extremist SJWs that support BLM, all opinions that BLM said it supports.

Black livers matter, absolutely, but what BLM stands for, I cannot get behind. Our form of capitalism isn't perfect, but it is one of the best in the world, and it sure beats what they have in the remaining Marxist-like countries around the world. The world as a whole is moving away from Marxism and if BLM wants to be legitimate in the future, they need to lose that part of its platform.
Show me official positions advocated by BLM that overlap with Marxism. Simple.

All this hand-waving is uncompelling. "Burn it all down" is anarchy, not Marxism.

I'm atheist - if I start an organization, that doesn't automatically make the organization atheist. Duh.

Show your work.
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Old 07-08-2020, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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The government needs to acquire some balls and stamp a heavy foot down on these rioters. It’s been going on for far too long!
They aren't going to do anything. Not even the "republicans". They have proven that. We're all on our own, especially whites since we are now attacked from every angle in this nation our ancestors created.



If anything, this whole lunacy we have had to deal with after a disgusting career criminal was offed (G. Floyd), it has completely trashed the Lefts arguments against the 2nd Amendment.


If they wanted to soften us through their lies about taking our rights to own guns away, I think more Americans have become aware of the lawless future of America the Left really wants.
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Old 07-08-2020, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Just wondering how others feel. To me sometimes it feels like I’m being blamed by society at large for all societal ills; and I can not defend myself without be labeled a racist. Things seem to be trending fast against me. If you feel the same way what is the best way to address this situation?
I'm an old white guy.

My view on this:

Don't take it personally unless you're in a position of authority who's been perpetuating institutional bias. Chances are, you aren't. So, the inherent discrimination in so many systems isn't something you've had any real control over.

What we do need to recognize is that so many "little things" we've never really taken notice of because they don't affect us are BIG things to those who've suffered difficulties as a result of those policies/actions, whether formal or informal.

Systemic racism is real, whether or not we personally haven't seen it in action.

So, no need for you or I to get defensive about it. We just need to acknowledge that it's real, it's a problem for millions of fellow Americans, and it's wrong.

It's time for change.

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Old 07-08-2020, 07:58 AM
 
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I'm an old white guy.

My view on this:

Don't take it personally unless you're in a position of authority who's been perpetuating institutional bias. Chances are, you aren't. So, the inherent discrimination in so many systems isn't something you've had any real control over.

What we do need to recognize is that so many "little things" we've never really taken notice of because they don't affect us are BIG things to those who've suffered difficulties as a result of those policies/actions, whether formal or informal.

Systemic racism is real, whether or not we personally haven't seen it in action.

So, no need for you or I to get defensive about it. We just need to acknowledge that it's real, it's a problem for millions of fellow Americans, and it's wrong.

It's time for change.

Please expand on why you think systemic racism is real. Concrete examples please.
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