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Honestly, it’s not that I don’t care that young black kids are killing each other, it’s that I can’t do anything about it except vote for people who support helping everyone gain self sufficiency. I feel strongly that dependency on government handouts has destroyed black families and caused most of the crime.
I do feel badly for parents who try to do their best, but whose children still die from violence, or commit violence.
Honestly, it’s not that I don’t care that young black kids are killing each other, it’s that I can’t do anything about it except vote for people who support helping everyone gain self sufficiency. I feel strongly that dependency on government handouts has destroyed black families and caused most of the crime.
I do feel badly for parents who try to do their best, but whose children still die from violence, or commit violence.
This is the thing. It doesn't matter who you vote for. People who are killers are going to keep doing so regardless of whoever is in charge. Look at Oklahoma. It's one of the most Republican states in this country. It has one of the highest Black incarceration rates in the USA. It has one of the highest Black homicide rates in the country. There is alot of gang violence in Tulsa.
Missouri is a Republican-ran state and has the highest Black homicide rate in the country. Gang violence. And among some individuals, an attitude of "shoot now, ask questions later".
Getting rid of welfare won't stop the problem. There are other issues to consider. Alot of anger issues, alot of individuals who don't care if they live or die, many individuals who are in gangs and deal drugs.
This is the thing. It doesn't matter who you vote for. People who are killers are going to keep doing so regardless of whoever is in charge. Look at Oklahoma. It's one of the most Republican states in this country. It has one of the highest Black incarceration rates in the USA. It has one of the highest Black homicide rates in the country. There is alot of gang violence in Tulsa.
Missouri is a Republican-ran state and has the highest Black homicide rate in the country. Gang violence. And among some individuals, an attitude of "shoot now, ask questions later".
Getting rid of welfare won't stop the problem. There are other issues to consider. Alot of anger issues, alot of individuals who don't care if they live or die, many individuals who are in gangs and deal drugs.
OK fine, but Democrats want to release criminals from prisons and place low income housing of killers next door. Republicans generally don't. That's the difference. Besides crime, why should low class, classless eye and ear sore people be in middle class neighborhoods and suburbs they couldn't normally afford to begin with?
All we can really do is separate the wheat from the chaff, but Democrats want to mix the chaff in with the wheat.
absolutely. without question. I care.
i care when someone dies from violence.
I care when we as a society turn a blind eye to the inputs that lead to violence in certain communities.
i care because we are all impacted when a person turns to crime and becomes callous to humanity. They get there for a reason.
i am frustrated with an attitude that doesn't care. I am doubly frustrated by people who pretend to care but focus their attention on things that are unrelated to the real issues.
This is the thing. It doesn't matter who you vote for. People who are killers are going to keep doing so regardless of whoever is in charge. Look at Oklahoma. It's one of the most Republican states in this country. It has one of the highest Black incarceration rates in the USA. It has one of the highest Black homicide rates in the country. There is alot of gang violence in Tulsa.
Missouri is a Republican-ran state and has the highest Black homicide rate in the country. Gang violence. And among some individuals, an attitude of "shoot now, ask questions later".
Getting rid of welfare won't stop the problem. There are other issues to consider. Alot of anger issues, alot of individuals who don't care if they live or die, many individuals who are in gangs and deal drugs.
I get your point, but I still think you could cut crime in half if there were more fathers raising sons in stable homes.
OK fine, but Democrats want to release criminals from prisons and place low income housing of killers next door. Republicans generally don't. That's the difference. Besides crime, why should low class, classless eye and ear sore people be in middle class neighborhoods and suburbs they couldn't normally afford to begin with?
All we can really do is separate the wheat from the chaff, but Democrats want to mix the chaff in with the wheat.
I never said the Democrats were doing a good job either. I am the kind of person who agrees with this adage: You do the crime, you do the time. I've never called for the early release of criminals (expect for those in prison on marijuana charges). My point is this. It doesn't matter who is in charge. Yes, the GOP will be tougher in crime. However, "tough on crime" has not stopped Black on Black murders from being a rampant issue.
Something else. No one should get a free pass in living anywhere. However, people should never be prevented from moving anywhere. This is how I see things. This is America. You should be able to live wherever you want. If you're willing to work for it, fine. If you commit crime, you should go to prison.
The main thing I am talking in the post you replied to about is PREVENTION. The Democratic Party is soft on punishment. The GOP is tough when it comes to punishment. Neither party has figured out PREVENTION.
I don't see why we all can't get along. No one likes crime, no one wants to be a victim of a criminal, no one wants to live in a trashed ghetto but there are some that like to live a life of crime, they like to hurt people they like to trash their neighborhoods but what can be done?
How do we fix that?
Stop letting hardened criminals go? Maybe it's time for an eye for an eye. Murderers get the death penalty immediately. Rapists get their genitals removed. Thieves get their hands cut off. Kidnappers and home invaders get immediate death.
I disagree with you. The issue is not Black culture as a whole. It is Black UNDERCLASS culture. This doesn't happen with working class and middle class Blacks. The segment of the Black population engaging in murder is mostly the UNDERCLASS. What part of UNDERCLASS is difficult for you to understand?
And there are places all over this planet where denigration of women is common. It happens alot in the Middle East and parts of South Asia. Mass sexual assault is not uncommon in Pakistan and Egypt. Acid attacks against women aren't uncommon either.
Paternal irresponsibility is a major underclass issue. It's also happening more and more in Latin America, especially in places like Honduras and El Salvador. MS-13 is literally causing those countries to be some of the most murderous on the planet. Underclass culture and gang violence. Listen to reggaeton and you'll find some of the most sexually explicit and violent music outside of American rap music.
Mircea's point stands. Whatever level of culture you like to assign, no collective that glorifies/condones violence, the debasement & denigration of women, drug use, paternal irresponsibility, the shunning of people who seek educational achievement, and the defying of responsible authority is going to prosper or even be anything other than a permanent underclass.
Make those parallels that prove Mircea's point, by all means. How are Egypt and Pakistan doing in terms of their economic ranking in the world? How are any collectives that glorify all that is worst in human nature doing relative to their more enlightened, peaceful and cooperative peers?
The Black American underclass is a collective that does indeed glorify all that is worst in human nature. That in no way classifies all Black Americans as part of that collective, but that collective in and of itself has exactly no hope of future prosperity, and those who within that collective who wish to prosper individually must and do escape that collective FIRST. Same as an immigrant fleeing any 3rd World craphole and going to the US, EU, Australia, etc. You first have to remove yourself from the destructive collective that prevents your self-actualization by various versions of force, and you must relocate to a collective that actually fosters prosperity. The black middle and upper class have done that in America, in vast numbers. Countless success stories speak to that truth.
But the government cannot fix a broken culture. Period. Nobody outside a broken collective can fix that collective. Either it dies on the vine because everyone within flees, it dies because something kills it, or it limps along in some form of brokenness for as long as something keeps feeding it life support. Right now, the Black American underclass limps along because our political class provides enough life support to keep it breathing and politically useful. Does not and cannot fix it.
Same as the UN trying to "fix" whatever despotic regime in whatever jerkwater part of the world they are meddling in. Only difference is population and political relevancy.
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