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Old 07-17-2020, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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first honest thing you've written.The values of America are secondary to a president you hate, I think that's accurately what's going on right now with the moderate democrats
I'm always honest
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Old 07-17-2020, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Your comments suggest that you'd rather the country fail than for the bad orange man to win a 2nd term.....that suggests that you are not honest in saying you love this country, rather you love when certain parties are in power in this country.

Your blind hatred for anyone who thinks differently to you is what prevents you from truly loving anything. I pity you.
No, because the country won't fail if Biden wins
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Old 07-17-2020, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Because I don't give a **** honestly, it doesn't affect my life the way a court stacked with reich wingers will if the Cheeto gets a 2nd term....

Counting the days until Ginsburg steps down. She's just clinging on long enough to see what happens on November 3rd.
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Old 07-17-2020, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Detroit
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Biden doesn’t even know where he is. He’s not alert or oriented to person, place, or time. Imagine giving the nuclear football(codes) to a demented person at a nursing home. Dudes an empty suit. Don’t like Trumps personality, but seriously Biden is no better...
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Old 07-17-2020, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Counting the days until Ginsburg steps down. She's just clinging on long enough to see what happens on November 3rd.
Of course you are, you'd probably love this country to become a Christian version of Iran
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Old 07-17-2020, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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I've voted democrat most of my life and I've spent the last 3.5 years being as disgusted with Trump as anyone. These last few months though have taken what seemed like background noise about the radical left and amplified it into a loud, blaring wake-up call. The left in America has completely lost it's mind. It consists of either far left radicals or people who may be center left but apologize or enable far left radicals.

One of the new catchphrases we've been hearing is "Silence is Violence". This is meant to suggest that if you are silent on racism, you are complicit in the violence it causes. The irony of that statement is so ridiculous that it serves as a perfect example of the current leftist insanity!

- Someone who is silent or not vocal enough in denouncing racism is complicit in violence committed by others.
- Meanwhile, people who are LITERALLY engaging in REAL violence, burning cities, attacking and killing people, occupying parts of cities, etc are apologized for and enabled. Their bail is paid for and they are not held to account by the left for their actions.

So in the left's view. If I stay home, pay my taxes, follow the law, act like a responsible citizen and decline to participate in BLM protests or activism, I am more evil and contemptible than someone who is out burning cities, tearing down public statues and assaulting or killing people! Can you see why this is no longer my party?

However, that is not the reason why I brought up "Silence is Violence". I brought it up to turn it around and aim it back at the left. Your silence on what is happening to YOUR party makes YOU complicit as well.

I'm done with the left! I can't vote for Trump but I won't vote Dem either. Actually, as bad as I thought Trump was, the left in the last few months has horrified my more than the 3.5 years we've just suffered through. I never thought the term "defund or abolish" the police would be taken seriously. I never thought I'd see my own countrymen tearing down our statues and defacing our history. I never thought freedom of speech and ideas would erode to the point that it has in our media and universities.

The left champions itself as the party of science yet it will immediately silence and denounce any scientist that might contradict some of the left's sacred cows.
- We've seen it for decades now with climate change where any non-alarmist scientist is shunned and silenced.
- We see it with gender, where DNA no longer determines if you are male or female, your FEELINGS do!
- We see it with statistics on police arrests that show that racism is not the systemic problem it is being made out to be.
- We see it with Covid-19 and denigrating the effictiveness of Hydroxychlorquine simply to spite Trump who had advocated for it.
- We see it with people saying with a straight face, that mass protests and rioting are not a concern for spreading covid after we've just been told mass gatherings were bad and we could not see loved ones in their final moments in the hospital. We could not hold proper funerals but George Floyd had about THREE of them that were fit for a head of state!

Then we have the insanity of Cancel Culture, where you can have your life ruined by something you said 15 years ago.

This is a world where we have leftist professors in our universities saying the most racist, sexist things you can imagine with no shame or apology but if you tweet "blue lives matter" or simply say you approve of the duly elected president of United States as the CEO of Goya did, you deserve to be cancelled, boycotted and shamed.

This is a world where a children's cartoon like Paw Patrol is cancelled as offensive or triggering but the most vile gangster rap is condoned and celebrated.

This is a world where it's absolutely acceptable to be racist as long as it's towards white people. We call unpleasant white women "Karens" without any sense of shame or irony! Can you imagine if we had a represenative African American name for unpleasant black women? Can you imagine the media running article after article about the latest example of a "Shanice" behaving badly?
Can you imagine a bestselling book called Black fragilty or Asian fragility?
Can you imagine workshops to reduce your blackness?

It seems like the radical left wants to tear down the system. What do they plan on replacing it with? We had the opportunity to see this in action with CHOP/CHAZ and it ended as badly as you would expect. We are supposed to want to try this on a national level?

Our system is not perfect and it can be improved but tearing it all down and expecting whatever is cobbled together in place of it to work BETTER is just shear insanity that any thinking, rational adult should reject immediately.
Your outrage appears to be directed to social media and I agree with you. In the last 6 months I have gotten fed up with the insanity and deactivated my social media accounts. However, the issue is you seem to be conflating this outrage with politics and that is where we will disagree, especially when it comes to the November presidential election. People seem quick to forget that Biden is a moderate democrat. If you’re unconvinced, look back at his actual voting record during his long tenure as a U.S. Senator and then look at his platform. Very little of what you are venting about applies to Biden or his campaign. This is why many moderate Republicans have pledged support for Biden over Trump. I’d consider myself a moderate and I have plenty of disdain for cancel culture and fringe liberal positions. I would have had severe concerns had Bernie Sanders won the Democratic nomination. However, Biden is a moderate, and that I can deal with.
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Old 07-17-2020, 10:58 AM
 
Location: New York City
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However, Biden is a moderate, and that I can deal with.
caveat emptor!

Who is the VP? aka the real president
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Old 07-17-2020, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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It wasn't THAT long ago when there were some fiscally responsible Democrats, it's a shame they don't exist anymore. Only far left nutjobs are accepted in the Democratic party nowadays.
I have encountered a few Dems who are nervous about spending, the annual deficit, and the national debt.

On the flipside, have you read 1 post about Biden's proposed 2021 budget? Biden's fiscal stance? Any Biden idea on how to get America's finances trending in the right direction?

I dont recall reading any.

I even started a thread linking to Trumps proposed 2021 budget, & asked Dems to show me Biden's, but the thread was dead upon arrival. Its death was quite revealing though...most Dems couldn't care less about controlled spending, budgets, deficits, debt, ect.. Obviously, CNN, MSNBC, and the MSM are not programming them to care about those issues.
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Old 07-17-2020, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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I'm not exactly thrilled the way the Dems have been appeasing the far left but aint no way I'd want a Trump regime 2.0
Yeah! Bring on socialism instead. Who needs freedom, and liberty anyways. Cancel the police, hate America, tear it all down. Let's let; hate, anger, rioting, looting, rule America's city forever, and ever.
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Old 07-17-2020, 11:07 AM
 
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Of course you are, you'd probably love this country to become a Christian version of Iran
^^^ That statement is ludicrous. Iran is a Muslim caliphate. The US is a free Republic with a bill of rights and a constitution. Although the political left is trying to squelch free speech so perhaps they are the ones trying to turn the US into Iran.
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