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I asked whether someone could cross a line, and what would that line would be? Teachers are not granted unlimited freedom of speech. Not only can what they say get them fired, but even what they do.
Come back to reality for a moment, there are things teachers can be doing and saying that make parents so uncomfortable they're going to demand the teachers be removed, period. If you want to be a teacher, don't go into porn, and be careful what you say publicly.
The teacher who posted that the man kneeling on the childs neck should kneel on it differently or add more pressure or whatever he posted crossed the line and it was right to fire him. He works with kids yet he was condoning...no encouraging child abuse.
This person retweeted something. How do you know he's saying things or doing things that make parents or students uncomfortable?
He is creating a hostile environment. He should be fired. They all should be fired.
The parent is creating a hostile environment. She should be fired!
Unless its violence, like that Georgia special ed teacher who said white children should be killed (in connection with the picture of the man with a knee on a child's neck), they should be able to say what they want outside the classroom.
He is the head of communications and retweeted the below.
I kind of agree with it....you don’t want to anyone to drastic to happen to young.
Now mother’s are saying he is transphobic and should be fired. One teacher (who posts public hatred against Trump and his supporters but gets no consequences for it) is starting a campaign for people to write letters to the school to educate him. But many are saying he needs to be fired immediately. Ruin him and his families life over a different opinion?
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Jul 22
"The reality is that many girls suffer through a heartbreaking scenario that Shrier lays out in chilling terms. One day, she writes, many girls wake up with no breasts and no uterus and wonder: I was just a teen. A kid. Why didn’t anyone stop me?"
The Transgender Craze is Creating Thousands of Young Victims | The American Conservative
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Firing people over tweets is the injustice of mob justice.
Putting myself in that situation as a parent, I would be angry because an identified school administrator (leader)speaks with more authority than than just anyone. I would be just as angry if I had a pregnant teen and they quoted an article for or against abortion. Again, that’s me. Too much into what I would consider a family matter. Again just saying how I would feel. Same thing with a decision to use growth hormones for short stature or Ritalin for ADD. Lap band surgery, breast augmentation, even future covid vax. All controversial, all long term repercussions
Clearly you think he did not cross a boundary.
I think people like you need to realize things aren't always about you and learn not to get angry so easily.
He isn't saying this to your child in the classroom. If unsolicited, then maybe it would be crossing a line. Saying it on twitter is not.
And I appreciated it when our teachers suggested ADHD drugs. Unlike pregnancy, that is in their wheelhouse. We made our own decision, but they see things being in the classroom every day that we don't see. So it was valuable input.
People who think boys are really girls should be institutionalized. Bring back the psych hospitals.
What they are doing in the UK is horrible. They are preying on minor girls going thru puberty, essentially telling lesbians that they are really men, and convincing them to go under hormone therapy, "top surgery" and becoming trans. It's insane, and destructive.
I asked whether someone could cross a line, and what would that line would be? Teachers are not granted unlimited freedom of speech. Not only can what they say get them fired, but even what they do.
Come back to reality for a moment, there are things teachers can be doing and saying that make parents so uncomfortable they're going to demand the teachers be removed, period. If you want to be a teacher, don't go into porn, and be careful what you say publicly.
Doing things like, violence porno graphic or sexual, as well as racist will be an issue with many people regardless of polity and it makes it difficult to teach children. Another big problem are also unions who protect teachers of wrong doing.
This person retweeted something. How do you know he's saying things or doing things that make parents or students uncomfortable?
I don't know anything about it. But if he did is that grounds to fire him?
My point was, there is a "line" you can cross, and all the screeching about "freedom of speech" or "freedom of expression" means nothing when you're teaching someone else's children.
Should the limit also extend to publicly declaring that you are a conservative?
Would you want your child being taught by a self-proclaimed communist?
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He retweeted something factual. Verifiably true. Not opinion.
These things seem consistent with an education environment.
My real purpose in this thread was to play Devil's Advocate. I feel like conservatives are a little hypocritical when it comes to public education, and delusional for that matter... So reread what I wrote and maybe it'll make more sense...
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"Guy went into education, what did he expect? I bet he spent all his life saying how much he loved America. Right-wingers really are idiots."
What was I really trying to say?
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Would you want your child being taught by a self-proclaimed communist?
My real purpose in this thread was to play Devil's Advocate. I feel like conservatives are a little hypocritical when it comes to public education, and delusional for that matter... So reread what I wrote and maybe it'll make more sense...
What was I really trying to say?
Do you see anyone trying to get people fired for that? Many professors are open communists. But I have a friend who is an assistant professor in an English department who wouldn't dare let people know they are a Republican.
Its a bizarre recreation of the McCarthy era. But instead of targeting a fringe of 1% who were communists and another 5-10% who would "associate" with them, its attacking 50% of the country and another 20% who would "associate" with them.
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