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There is so much wrong with your attachment, I don't even know where to begin.
First of all, the global death toll from COVID is over 700K, not 488K. And that is in 6 months. We still have to count the deaths in the next 6 months.
2018 was a bad flu season. 650k is not typical. The average yearly global flu mortality rate is 389K, and most of those deaths are in 3rd world countries, many, in Africa.
In the US, 157K have died from COVID so far. So in 6 months, the US mortality rate is already quadruple the average 1 year mortality rate from the flu, and it is likely to be a lot more than that 6 months from now, once an entire year is tallied.
And lastly, it is asinine to compare it's "severity" to the Spaish Flu 100 years ago. Modern medicine has saved so many lives that would have been lost if we were working with 1918 medicine and technology. They didn't have any of the machines that we are using to save lives today. Millions of lives have been saved with ventilators, high flow oxygen, CPAP, BIPAP, pulse oximetry, capnography, etc. Millions more have been saved with modern drugs, like IL-6 inhibitors, dexamethasone, antivirals, hydroxychloroquine, blood thinners, cardiac drugs, renal (kidney) drugs, respiratory drugs, etc. They didn't have any of these things 100 years ago. Back then, you got sick and died while the doctors, nurses, and family watched.
There is no way to compare the severity of 2 different virus outbreaks that happened 100 years apart. I have no doubt, if there is a viral pandemic 100 years from now, a lot less people will die from it than today.
There is so much wrong with your attachment, I don't even know where to begin.
First of all, the global death toll from COVID is over 700K, not 488K. And that is in 6 months. We still have to count the deaths in the next 6 months.
2018 was a bad flu season. 650k is not typical. The average yearly global flu mortality rate is 389K, and most of those deaths are in 3rd world countries, many, in Africa.
In the US, 157K have died from COVID so far. So in 6 months, the US mortality rate is already quadruple the average 1 year mortality rate from the flu, and it is likely to be a lot more than that 6 months from now, once an entire year is tallied.
And lastly, it is asinine to compare it's "severity" to the Spaish Flu 100 years ago. Modern medicine has saved so many lives that would have been lost if we were working with 1918 medicine and technology. They didn't have any of the machines that we are using to save lives today. Millions of lives have been saved with ventilators, high flow oxygen, CPAP, BIPAP, pulse oximetry, capnography, etc. Millions more have been saved with modern drugs, like IL-6 inhibitors, dexamethasone, antivirals, hydroxychloroquine, blood thinners, cardiac drugs, renal (kidney) drugs, respiratory drugs, etc. They didn't have any of these things 100 years ago. Back then, you got sick and died while the doctors, nurses, and family watched.
There is no way to compare the severity of 2 different virus outbreaks that happened 100 years apart. I have no doubt, if there is a viral pandemic 100 years from now, a lot less people will die from it than today.
Almost everyone who went on a ventilator died. They hardly saved anyone. And where do you get your statistics? How many people total have been hospitalized with covid?
As time goes by, science is showing us this is much less deadly than anyone thought.
Not really. It was estimated at 0.5% or less back in March. Still the same. Meantime - if ZERO people died, it would change nothing - because this isn't about preventing death (primarily). It's about not straining our medical resources.
Don't argue. Go look it up yourself. Flattening the curve is not about reducing deaths - it's about postponing them.
Almost everyone who went on a ventilator died. They hardly saved anyone. And where do you get your statistics? How many people total have been hospitalized with covid?
Umm, you are a little behind the times. I ran a COVID ICU for 3 months. That was true at first. In the initial weeks, we lost 90% of the patients on ventilators. 100% of them would have died without the ventilators, BTW.
But then the people who survived the first few weeks on the ventilator, ended up living. Once they got through the initial onslaught of the virus, and the hypercoagulabilty, their chance of living increased exponentially. The overall mortality rate started to drop and continued to drop.
When all was said and done, the ventilator mortality rate was down to 50%.
Again, that would have been 100% without the ventilators. We only put people on ventilators when death was imminent.
This question is on the border of being mentally ill to me.
How many people must die for Covid to be 'not that bad to me?"
We are approaching 5 Million people who have fallen ill to the disease, and the number grows daily. Hourly.
More than 150,000 of us have died so far. That's the number of a good-sized city anywhere in the United States or the world.
It's crashed our economy, and is laying waste to the entire world.
How much worse can it be to make bad enough to be serious in your estimation, Tabbychic?
There is so much wrong with your attachment, I don't even know where to begin.
First of all, the global death toll from COVID is over 700K, not 488K. And that is in 6 months. We still have to count the deaths in the next 6 months.
2018 was a bad flu season. 650k is not typical. The average yearly global flu mortality rate is 389K, and most of those deaths are in 3rd world countries, many, in Africa.
In the US, 157K have died from COVID so far. So in 6 months, the US mortality rate is already quadruple the average 1 year mortality rate from the flu, and it is likely to be a lot more than that 6 months from now, once an entire year is tallied.
And lastly, it is asinine to compare it's "severity" to the Spaish Flu 100 years ago. Modern medicine has saved so many lives that would have been lost if we were working with 1918 medicine and technology. They didn't have any of the machines that we are using to save lives today. Millions of lives have been saved with ventilators, high flow oxygen, CPAP, BIPAP, pulse oximetry, capnography, etc. Millions more have been saved with modern drugs, like IL-6 inhibitors, dexamethasone, antivirals, hydroxychloroquine, blood thinners, cardiac drugs, renal (kidney) drugs, respiratory drugs, etc. They didn't have any of these things 100 years ago. Back then, you got sick and died while the doctors, nurses, and family watched.
There is no way to compare the severity of 2 different virus outbreaks that happened 100 years apart. I have no doubt, if there is a viral pandemic 100 years from now, a lot less people will die from it than today.
Influenza H1N1 and COVID19 are very different viruses.
COVID19 causes your body to create microthrombi which block blood flow into parts of your organs. This leads to brain, heart, lung, and kidney damage. The effect of COVID19 is life long damage. Even asymptomatic people are showing lung, heart, and kidney damage.
I had H1N1 and was in bed for three weeks. I would take that any day over brain, lung, heart, or kidney damage. I would rather get sick and get over it than have COVID19-caused lung or heart damage that prevents me from ever going hiking again.
I was joking, but traces of the virus were found in waste samples as early as spring 2019 and xrays of patients with pneumonia looked similar to covid patients also some time around mid 2019.
I was joking, but traces of the virus were found in waste samples as early as spring 2019 and xrays of patients with pneumonia looked similar to covid patients also some time around mid 2019.
Still would like to see your source. Researchers in Seattle tested samples from nasal swabs taken for an influenza study in early 2020 and the first one that was positive was obtained on February 24.
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