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Old 07-20-2020, 09:54 PM
 
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Said he fought for States Rights, not to maintain slavery. Said he had hoped the practice would end.

Very eloquent man.

https://youtu.be/lfqIa4dDxrw
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Old 07-20-2020, 09:57 PM
 
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Whatever personal reasons that soldier fought for, it isn't as crucial as THE BOTTOM LINE. The bottom line is, the Confederate cause, as a whole, was about keeping slavery. The Articles of Secession, the Confederate Constitution, those documents point to it. The Confederate cause, what the Confederacy was about, it was wrong, period.
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Old 07-20-2020, 10:04 PM
 
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Whatever personal reasons that soldier fought for, it isn't as crucial as THE BOTTOM LINE. The bottom line is, the Confederate cause, as a whole, was about keeping slavery. The Articles of Secession, the Confederate Constitution, those documents point to it. The Confederate cause, what the Confederacy was about, it was wrong, period.
Still, amazing to hear the voice of someone who lived it. Imagine his life, he fought with a musket at 16 but lived to see atomic bombs dropped on Japan and the dawn of the Jet age.
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Old 07-20-2020, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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Not all confederate soldiers were slaveholders. They may well have fought for their state, out of patriotism, but make no mistake, the issue that brought secession was slavery.

States’ rights is just a sanitized way of saying Southern states wanted the right to keep slaves. They wanted to determine this at the state level. What other rights do you imagine they wanted?

The issue was so fraught it split religious denominations.
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Old 07-20-2020, 10:12 PM
 
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Fascinating.
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Old 07-20-2020, 10:13 PM
 
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The last person drawing a pension from the civil war died this year.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/last-pe...es-11591141193

With an average lifespan now of 78 years the civil war was only 2 lifespans ago, entirety of US history in a little over 3. Our country is still an infant.
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Old 07-20-2020, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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The Confederate cause, what the Confederacy was about, it was wrong, period.
So was the Union. Whatever the reason for secession, the north had no right to force the south to stay. The southern states voluntarily entered the union in 1789, and they had just as much right to leave it in 1860. The southern states did not become union property when they joined the United States.
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Old 07-20-2020, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Not all confederate soldiers were slaveholders.
The vast majority were not.
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Old 07-21-2020, 02:02 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I have a copy of "When I was a Slave", which was taken word-for-word from the slave narratives in the 1930's.
There is story after story, told by people who were actually slaves. It's an inexpensive book, and one that should be read.



https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A735906...ng=UTF8&btkr=1
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Old 07-21-2020, 02:12 PM
 
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Interesting. Of course, he was speaking 82 years after the war ended. Who knows what he thought in 1862?
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