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Old 08-06-2020, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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The attempt to spin the lie of society falling apart just does not hold up to scrutiny. Whether they are Chicken Littles or purposefully being deceitful, it's a sham argument.

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the trend line for violent crime over the last 30 years has been down, not up. The Bureau of Justice Statistics found that the rate of violent crimes per 1,000 Americans age 12 and older plummeted from 80 in 1993 to just 23 in 2018. The country has gotten much, much safer, but, somehow, Americans don’t seem to feel that on a knee-jerk, emotional level.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-theyre-wrong/
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Old 08-06-2020, 10:55 PM
 
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The attempt to spin the lie of society falling apart just does not hold up to scrutiny. Whether they are Chicken Littles or purposefully being deceitful, it's a sham argument.



https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-theyre-wrong/
I'm certainly aware of the long term trend. Are you aware of the short term trend? This is what has people concerned.

Pretty sure you know this but just want to stir the s***
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Old 08-06-2020, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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I'm certainly aware of the long term trend. Are you aware of the short term trend? This is what has people concerned.

Pretty sure you know this but just want to stir the s***
Exactly! Poster is trying to spin his misleading statistics as an excuse for the murdering looting arsonists Democrats.
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Old 08-06-2020, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Ridgefield, WA
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The attempt to spin the lie of society falling apart just does not hold up to scrutiny. Whether they are Chicken Littles or purposefully being deceitful, it's a sham argument.



https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-theyre-wrong/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/homicid...ts-11596395181


Do you have any other lame "gotchas" to add or are you going to continue to use stastistical trends from the mid late 1990s to make your points about 2020?
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Old 08-06-2020, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Various
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The attempt to spin the lie of society falling apart just does not hold up to scrutiny. Whether they are Chicken Littles or purposefully being deceitful, it's a sham argument.



https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-theyre-wrong/
Hahha, nothing like a 30 year smoothing effect to hide the disastrous current outcomes of violent leftists and complicity leftist governments.

Do they teach this method at your liberal arts college?
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Old 08-06-2020, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Japan
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You totally misrepresent the issue, posting long term trends that aren't even in dispute rather than the relevant recent data. So who's the actual liar here, professor?
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Old 08-06-2020, 11:42 PM
 
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https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/...tics-june-2020

Key highlights from this month's crime statistics:

Murder is up +23.1% (181 v. 147) for the first six months of 2020 when compared to the first six months of 2019.
There were 205 citywide shooting incidents in June 2020, compared to 89 shooting incidents in June 2019, a 130.3% increase. Year-to-date, through June 30, there is a +46% spike in citywide shooting incidents (528 v. 362).
Burglary increased +118.2% (1,783 v. 817) in June and is up +46.3% (7,234 v. 4,943) year-to-date through June 30.
For the month of June, rape decreased by -21% (109 v. 138). Rape continues to be underreported. If you have been a victim of sexual assault, please come forward. The NYPD Special Victims Division's 24-hour hotline is 212-267-RAPE (7273).
Year-to-date, through June 28, citywide hate crimes declined -38% (134 v. 212).
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Old 08-06-2020, 11:54 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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The attempt to spin the lie of society falling apart just does not hold up to scrutiny. Whether they are Chicken Littles or purposefully being deceitful, it's a sham argument.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-theyre-wrong/
It’s not much comfort to New York, with its 130% increase in murders this June compared to last June or it’s 23% increase the last 6 months, that crime is down in my neck of the woods.

Some stats from this year:
  • Chicago: May 31st - the most murders in a single day in 60 years
  • Portland: July - most homicide in 30 years and a 240% increase in shootings
  • Seattle: June - 525% increase in violent crime
  • LA: First week of June - 250% increase in homicide, 56% increase in number of victims shot; First week of July double the number of homicides in that occurred in 2019
  • Nashville: Late May-Early June - 233% increase in homicides
I guess I ought to be grateful for Louisville’s paltry 63% June/July increase in homicides.

Murder rate increase between February and June 2020
  • Chicago - 34%
  • Philadelphia - 23%
  • Los Angeles - 5%
  • Atlanta - 4%
  • Nashville - 43%
  • New York - 23%
  • New Orleans - 36%
  • Indianapolis - 38%
  • Jacksonville, Fla. - 13%
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Old 08-07-2020, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The attempt to spin the lie of society falling apart just does not hold up to scrutiny. Whether they are Chicken Littles or purposefully being deceitful, it's a sham argument.



https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-theyre-wrong/
Where do you see the republican party say it isn't decreasing? It's been trending down for a long time.

In down times crime will increase.
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Old 08-07-2020, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Various
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The attempt to spin the lie of society falling apart just does not hold up to scrutiny. Whether they are Chicken Littles or purposefully being deceitful, it's a sham argument.



https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-theyre-wrong/
Tristram my friend, this is what they call a thread fail.
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