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Old 08-10-2020, 08:19 AM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 24 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
The OP doesn't understand math.

We had to shut down just about everything just to keep it at 160,000 deaths, imagine if we treated this as just another bad flu season.
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This post should be the end of the thread.

I almost didn't open this thread because the comparison is so laughable.
I genuinely dont understand what is so hard for theses people to see.

We have all these preventive measures, and we still have this many dead, but you think shutting down wasnt worth it????
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Old 08-10-2020, 08:09 PM
 
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How did you arrive at that conclusion with 160,000 deaths, we could have easily had a few hundred thousand more deaths if not for the shutdowns.
The shut downs bought us time which was the goal at the time. This is a pandemic people are going to die. What we should be doing is trying to educate the public about who is at risk and providing resources to help those people. Not shutting everything down and hiding out until this thing just goes away. I never understood that. If you are afraid to go out dont go out.
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Old 08-10-2020, 08:30 PM
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Shut down the country because like what, 1% of the population might die? Yeah I know 1% of the population is still alot of people but still...wreck the lives of the other 99%?
It's stupid. If you are scared, or at high risk to die, stay home. And/or stay away/take precautioms from those at risk.
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Old 08-10-2020, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Shut down the country because like what, 1% of the population might die? Yeah I know 1% of the population is still alot of people but still...wreck the lives of the other 99%?
It's stupid. If you are scared, or at high risk to die, stay home. And/or stay away/take precautioms from those at risk.
So let 32 million people die to save the economy?
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Old 08-10-2020, 08:50 PM
 
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Nobody knew math, and basic science, and human decency could be so complicated.
Seeing how Trump has infected his base with this shameful politicization of the pandemic is really heart breaking. I feel like they’ve become the flat earthers of the COVID pandemic.
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Old 08-11-2020, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Shut down the country because like what, 1% of the population might die? Yeah I know 1% of the population is still alot of people but still...wreck the lives of the other 99%?
It's stupid. If you are scared, or at high risk to die, stay home. And/or stay away/take precautioms from those at risk.
If everyone who is high risk stays home, there will be no one to run the economy and not enough health care workers, including doctors, to take care of the sick.
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Old 08-11-2020, 12:46 AM
 
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By reading the posts here, it's obvious that the thread and OP are massive fail. She leaves a legacy... not a good one... but a legacy.
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Old 08-11-2020, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Well if that’s the case as you claim. Why not just shut down the entire country for eternity. Stay in your home forever. That way no more deaths
Because if the shut down is complete, it won't have to last forever to be effective.

It slows the spread of the disease. Once the disease spread is controlled, fewer people become infected. That allows the ill to recover better because the resources aren't spread out until they're thin.

Slowing the spread also gives the uninfected people's bodies time to build some natural immunity to the virus. That immunity might not prevent a person from infection, but it could reduce the degree of illness and the time it takes to recover. If there's some natural immunity everyone has against the virus, fewer people will die from it.

That's why quarantine works. It always takes time, but the stricter the quarantine, the less time it takes before people can go back to living more normally.

A weak quarantine doesn't slow the virus spread enough to slow down the infection rates, so life actually could mean staying home forever.

One infected person passes it on to 3 others. 3 becomes 9, 9 soon becomes 81. Do the math.
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Old 08-11-2020, 01:15 AM
 
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12,469 deaths from H1N1 over 18 months.




161,284 deaths from Covid-19 in 7 months.

The covid number cannot be trusted since it has become a political weapon.
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Old 08-11-2020, 01:26 AM
 
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I genuinely dont understand what is so hard for theses people to see.

We have all these preventive measures, and we still have this many dead, but you think shutting down wasnt worth it????
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By reading the posts here, it's obvious that the thread and OP are massive fail. She leaves a legacy... not a good one... but a legacy.
One of the downsides of living in a country that gives you the latitude of freedom that the USA offers is that you have the right to be as ridiculous as you want as far as your beliefs. It also doesn't help that we have become an overly PC culture. Meaning, no one calls out the OP on her illogical beliefs in her day to day real life. This only allows people like his to feel justified/correct in their beliefs. If people "shamed" these people publicly (with logic) in real life they would be a lot more likely to drop this sort of nonsense ideas. Same goes for 95% of people with ridiculous opinions living in the USA. Prior to the internet/PC culture people were more influenced by their communities because that was the primary outlet for sharing ideas. In those days you were called out a lot quicker when your opinions are not based in reality.

Anyway, people like the OP don't like subjects such as math/science because these subjects give measurable ways to evaluate if your belief is correct or incorrect. As most of you know, their beliefs are quickly shattered if they allow math/science to evaluate them. As proof of this, did you notice that the OP completely ignored any reply that was related to math/science? There is a reason why she did not address why the 12K vs 160K death rate post. The reason is because its impossible to refute so she just pretends like that post doesn't exist.

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