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I disagree with the bulk of liberal/progressive philosophy and ideology. Yet, in disagreeing with that philosophy, that is not to say that I wish to forbid or condemn it. I believe we should each have the right to hold any philosophies or beliefs we wish to harbor as long as such does not preclude those around us from having that same right--even if they are very unpopular ideas.
Unfortunately, there is one liberal/progressive tenet that I flatly condemn and will fight to my last breath, which is the only one that is important to me and affects me personally: the concept of forced compliance to the entirety of the liberal/progressive belief system. If not for that, you and I, dear liberal, would not be ideological enemies. If you embraced the concept of "live and let live" along with all your other tenets, we would not be at odds because I really couldn't care less how you live your life as long as you allow me that same courtesy. But you can't. You won't. Subjugation, conformity, and authoritarian collectivism supersedes all other aspects of your belief system. It's much like medieval Europe, but rather than the Catholic Inquisition, we now have BLM and antifa to "enforce the faith."
That being the case, where does that leave the rest of us? Obviously, dear liberal, our "final solution" to the problem cannot be the same final solution that your leftist ancestors perpetrated, such as Stalin's solution for those who did not conform. Or Pol Pot's. Or a host of other socialist/authoritarian dictators' solutions (which axiomatically involved the killing of large numbers of people). We cannot simply dig trenches and shoot you or send you to "showers" with gas nozzles on the walls. Although you would certainly love to do that to us non-conformists, as liberty loving individuals, it would go against everything we believe in should we do that to you. So, that is a non-starter. We must check that off our list of possible remedies.
What then? How do we get you off our backs without liquidating you, dear liberal? How do we remove the albatross from around our necks that you are without harming you?
Well, I have a modest proposal:
Currently, we have systems of government within our nation that are either autonomous or semi-autonomous. These governments act according to their own laws and edicts via their own enforcement systems. These "city-states" within the United States are the various Indian reservations across the nation. Why not use that as a model for autonomous or semi-autonomous "Woke Nations" within our borders? We've already had an attempt at just that in Seattle. Let's embrace it and run with it. Let's take our most liberal big cities and turn them into "liberal reservations." Each could have it's own name, it's own government, and its own identity. It could handle its own affairs any way it wishes--full communism, socialism, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, collectivism, anarchy, etc. The only thing each Woke Nation would NOT be allowed to do is meddle in the affairs of the US population at large outside of its boundaries. Each Woke Nation would only have power over itself and those citizens who chose to live there. If said woke citizens wished to return to the US, each would have to declare loyalty to the US, STAND while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, and take an oath not to attempt to subjugate others and force them to conform to Woke Nation principles.
Of course, this "final solution" is just one proposal to get the albatross from around the neck of liberty-minded Americans without harming that albatross, engaging in civil war or revolution, splitting the nation, or committing crimes against humanity. What other ideas can we come up with to prevent liberals from subjugating all of us, and to answer the "Liberal Question"? Or perhaps this one is acceptable to all parties involved?
Unfortunately, there is one liberal/progressive tenet that I flatly condemn and will fight to my last breath, which is the only one that is important to me and affects me personally: the concept of forced compliance to the entirety of the liberal/progressive belief system. If not for that, you and I, dear liberal, would not be ideological enemies. If you embraced the concept of "live and let live" along with all your other tenets, we would not be at odds because I really couldn't care less how you live your life as long as you allow me that same courtesy. But you can't. You won't. Subjugation, conformity, and authoritarian collectivism supersedes all other aspects of your belief system. It's much like medieval Europe, but rather than the Catholic Inquisition, we now have BLM and antifa to "enforce the faith."
I'm not reading all that, because your first point is incorrect. Liberals do not force you to comply with their world view. A few crazies salivate at the thought, but they don't represent the majority of liberals. I can still have a beer with an average liberal. They are not my enemy or my adversary. Some of them perhaps should be institutionalized, along with some of the crazies on the right, but that doesn't mean a damn thing politically at the end of the day. I think it's very sad that we let so many mentally ill people run around without adequate resources or care. Many inevitably hurt themselves, hurt other people or get sucked up into a vortex of ideological evil and hate. In the past, they were called "the useful idiots" even though that's not a nice way of putting it.
I disagree with the bulk of liberal/progressive philosophy and ideology. Yet, in disagreeing with that philosophy, that is not to say that I wish to forbid or condemn it. I believe we should each have the right to hold any philosophies or beliefs we wish to harbor as long as such does not preclude those around us from having that same right--even if they are very unpopular ideas.
Unfortunately, there is one liberal/progressive tenet that I flatly condemn and will fight to my last breath, which is the only one that is important to me and affects me personally: the concept of forced compliance to the entirety of the liberal/progressive belief system. If not for that, you and I, dear liberal, would not be ideological enemies. If you embraced the concept of "live and let live" along with all your other tenets, we would not be at odds because I really couldn't care less how you live your life as long as you allow me that same courtesy. But you can't. You won't. Subjugation, conformity, and authoritarian collectivism supersedes all other aspects of your belief system. It's much like medieval Europe, but rather than the Catholic Inquisition, we now have BLM and antifa to "enforce the faith."
That being the case, where does that leave the rest of us? Obviously, dear liberal, our "final solution" to the problem cannot be the same final solution that your leftist ancestors perpetrated, such as Stalin's solution for those who did not conform. Or Pol Pot's. Or a host of other socialist/authoritarian dictators' solutions (which axiomatically involved the killing of large numbers of people). We cannot simply dig trenches and shoot you or send you to "showers" with gas nozzles on the walls. Although you would certainly love to do that to us non-conformists, as liberty loving individuals, it would go against everything we believe in should we do that to you. So, that is a non-starter. We must check that off our list of possible remedies.
What then? How do we get you off our backs without liquidating you, dear liberal? How do we remove the albatross from around our necks that you are without harming you?
Well, I have a modest proposal:
Currently, we have systems of government within our nation that are either autonomous or semi-autonomous. These governments act according to their own laws and edicts via their own enforcement systems. These "city-states" within the United States are the various Indian reservations across the nation. Why not use that as a model for autonomous or semi-autonomous "Woke Nations" within our borders? We've already had an attempt at just that in Seattle. Let's embrace it and run with it. Let's take our most liberal big cities and turn them into "liberal reservations." Each could have it's own name, it's own government, and its own identity. It could handle its own affairs any way it wishes--full communism, socialism, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, collectivism, anarchy, etc. The only thing each Woke Nation would NOT be allowed to do is meddle in the affairs of the US population at large outside of its boundaries. Each Woke Nation would only have power over itself and those citizens who chose to live there. If said woke citizens wished to return to the US, each would have to declare loyalty to the US, STAND while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, and take an oath not to attempt to subjugate others and force them to conform to Woke Nation principles.
Of course, this "final solution" is just one proposal to get the albatross from around the neck of liberty-minded Americans without harming that albatross, engaging in civil war or revolution, splitting the nation, or committing crimes against humanity. What other ideas can we come up with to prevent liberals from subjugating all of us, and to answer the "Liberal Question"? Or perhaps this one is acceptable to all parties involved?
I've been in favor of splitting up the nation for some time. but I do like your idea of independent city-states that are politically isolated from the rest of the nation.
Regardless of how it happens, I want these people gone.
We just want to return to the Constitutional system the Founders originally set up - that's all.
For several decades a certain subset of Americans have been at odds with the Constitution.
Rather than attempting to amend it as prescribed by the Constitution, these various groups have instead worked to undermine it by disregarding its authority where it clearly exists and inventing implied stipulations where the document is silent.
The Constitution addresses the individual's need to control one's affairs while protecting the other person's ability to control their affairs.
We call this freedom, and it comes with both rights and responsibilities.
Perhaps the most important responsibility under our constitutional system is to seek resolution of disagreements in the way prescribed, i.e., properly enacted legislation or amendments to the Constitution.
Other people feel differently about these things, and I simply no longer care to share a country with them.
It is the sole job of SCOTUS to reinterpret the Constitution as life and circumstances change. If everything was done by amendment, nothing would ever get done.
I'm not reading all that, because your first point is incorrect. Liberals do not force you to comply with their world view. A few crazies salivate at the thought, but they don't represent the majority of liberals. I can still have a beer with an average liberal. They are not my enemy or my adversary. Some of them perhaps should be institutionalized, along with some of the crazies on the right, but that doesn't mean a damn thing politically at the end of the day. I think it's very sad that we let so many mentally ill people run around without adequate resources or care. Many inevitably hurt themselves, hurt other people or get sucked up into a vortex of ideological evil and hate. In the past, they were called "the useful idiots" even though that's not a nice way of putting it.
I know many on the left and right. The main most important difference I see is quite simple:
The left sees the government as the solution, the right sees it as the problem.
All our problems and disagreements start from that. Including dealing with the pandemic.
I know there are a myriad of other issues that divide us but it all starts from the bold text above.
There is no final solution. Interesting choice of words. . Short of splitting the country into pieces or going to all out war both sides will be here. They can either get along or not.
It is the sole job of SCOTUS to reinterpret the Constitution as life and circumstances change. If everything was done by amendment, nothing would ever get done.
A right to privacy is not mentioned in the Constitution.
Neither is the federal government's obligation/ability to protect such a right, if it existed.
It was invented by the Court in 1973 because it was needed to justify Roe.
This sort of legislating from the bench exists outside the framework laid down by the Founders.
The correct action would be to amend the Constitution to provide a specific right to privacy, or abortion or anything else we want to compel all the states to accept.
Apart from that, it's a state matter.
Politicians don't like to dirty their hands with this sort of thing because it's sure to **** someone off, so they are happy to allow the Court to overstep its authority, but this isn't how the country is supposed to operate.
The problem with your description of what the Court does is the Court reinterprets the Constitution as justices and their preferences change.
Liberals do not force you to comply with their world view. A few crazies salivate at the thought, but they don't represent the majority of liberals..
I do not believe that it's a few "crazies". Most liberals want to impose their beliefs on the rest of us. Thus we have CRT, cancel culture, higher taxes, lax crime laws/penalties, open borders, book bannings, taking away the right to defend yourself, picking pronouns, etc...Those things impact everyone.
OP — it is the conservatives who would end up in reservations.
Sadly, the republicans, independents and even moderate democrats for decades now have allowed the radical liberals to control every single powerful institution in this country.
They control the media, our complete education system, our entertainment industry, the deep state bureaucracy, the Intel agencies, social media, the CDC, the IRS, sports industry, and now apparently even the military.
Even when Trump had the majority in Congress he and the R’s couldn’t compete with the deeply corrupted democrat power block in the FBI/ DOJ and Intel agencies and their powerful media compliance….
I disagree with the bulk of liberal/progressive philosophy and ideology. Yet, in disagreeing with that philosophy, that is not to say that I wish to forbid or condemn it. I believe we should each have the right to hold any philosophies or beliefs we wish to harbor as long as such does not preclude those around us from having that same right--even if they are very unpopular ideas.
Unfortunately, there is one liberal/progressive tenet that I flatly condemn and will fight to my last breath, which is the only one that is important to me and affects me personally: the concept of forced compliance to the entirety of the liberal/progressive belief system. If not for that, you and I, dear liberal, would not be ideological enemies. If you embraced the concept of "live and let live" along with all your other tenets, we would not be at odds because I really couldn't care less how you live your life as long as you allow me that same courtesy. But you can't. You won't. Subjugation, conformity, and authoritarian collectivism supersedes all other aspects of your belief system. It's much like medieval Europe, but rather than the Catholic Inquisition, we now have BLM and antifa to "enforce the faith."
That being the case, where does that leave the rest of us? Obviously, dear liberal, our "final solution" to the problem cannot be the same final solution that your leftist ancestors perpetrated, such as Stalin's solution for those who did not conform. Or Pol Pot's. Or a host of other socialist/authoritarian dictators' solutions (which axiomatically involved the killing of large numbers of people). We cannot simply dig trenches and shoot you or send you to "showers" with gas nozzles on the walls. Although you would certainly love to do that to us non-conformists, as liberty loving individuals, it would go against everything we believe in should we do that to you. So, that is a non-starter. We must check that off our list of possible remedies.
What then? How do we get you off our backs without liquidating you, dear liberal? How do we remove the albatross from around our necks that you are without harming you?
Well, I have a modest proposal:
Currently, we have systems of government within our nation that are either autonomous or semi-autonomous. These governments act according to their own laws and edicts via their own enforcement systems. These "city-states" within the United States are the various Indian reservations across the nation. Why not use that as a model for autonomous or semi-autonomous "Woke Nations" within our borders? We've already had an attempt at just that in Seattle. Let's embrace it and run with it. Let's take our most liberal big cities and turn them into "liberal reservations." Each could have it's own name, it's own government, and its own identity. It could handle its own affairs any way it wishes--full communism, socialism, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, collectivism, anarchy, etc. The only thing each Woke Nation would NOT be allowed to do is meddle in the affairs of the US population at large outside of its boundaries. Each Woke Nation would only have power over itself and those citizens who chose to live there. If said woke citizens wished to return to the US, each would have to declare loyalty to the US, STAND while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, and take an oath not to attempt to subjugate others and force them to conform to Woke Nation principles.
Of course, this "final solution" is just one proposal to get the albatross from around the neck of liberty-minded Americans without harming that albatross, engaging in civil war or revolution, splitting the nation, or committing crimes against humanity. What other ideas can we come up with to prevent liberals from subjugating all of us, and to answer the "Liberal Question"? Or perhaps this one is acceptable to all parties involved?
I am afraid you do not understand- Liberals are fascists and there is no compromise in their lexicon.
Liberals have an uncanny inability to see any situation from the another viewpoint and thus are intolerant to any disagreement or dissention.
You are making the mistake that MANY CONSERVATIVES have made in the past- LIBERALS ARE NOT REASONABLE and thus cannot engage in, nor be trusted with, any compromise or agreement. It is their views or die. Once you understand that, the insanity of liberals is easier to understand.
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. Short of splitting the country into pieces or going to all out war both sides will be here. They can either get along or not.
