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The infection of the "locked up" seniors was brought in by people from outside their residences, people who did not know they were infected.
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Suzy, are you advocating for quarantining sick people suddenly?
I mean, you've been blabbering on here for months trying to quarantine the entire population instead of just sick people.
What is it that you want? Should sick people be quarantined or the entire population?
Sick people are isolated. People who may be infected but are not yet showing signs of illness are quarantined. Those, along with contact tracing, are standards of infection control.
During the measles outbreak in NY last year, health authorities resorted to fines because people were not only refusing to quarantine after exposure to measles they were refusing to isolate the sick, deliberately exposing others to the virus. That is why it took almost a year to control the outbreaks there.
If people who are infected but not sick would voluntarily isolate themselves, then what NZ plans to do would not be necessary, and what they are doing is isolating infected people.
Please link to any post where I have advocated quarantining the "entire population".
Internment Camps - 2.0.
Democrats never really changed.
No they don't. They created some really great Camps, for Japanese Americans during ww2, then 20 years later created some wonderful high rise Ghettos for Black people
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People love to talk about how great New Zealand is doing with Covid. Currently anyone who tests positive in NZ is required to spend two week in a quarantine facility, which I believe is a hotel.
I think this is an extreme and dangerous measure but have seen people comment in other forums that this is a good move. Just wondering what others think of this. Would you support forcing people to quarantine in the USA, away from their homes if they tested positive for Covid? Is it worth it in order to eliminate Covid?
During the early stages of the virus people coming back from China were quarantined in hospitals and hotels in the UK and other countries.
However such measures only work in order to try and prevent the virus taking hold, rather than in relation to later stages when the virus has spread.
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Not much fear that I can see - more just acceptance that for better or worse, this is the course of action chosen by the people we elected, and that unless someone offers a better solution, the plan should be adhered to.
Oh, OK. Your nation has accepted wholesale tyranny to eradicate a disease with a 0.3% fatality rate.
But don't worry, there's not much fear that you can see.
That doesn't stop some of them from commenting negatively about a nation that is neither dying from covid nor killing themselves with guns at the rate Americans are.
The nation that rates lower on all scales of measurable freedoms than 16 other first world countries, including New Zealand, actually has citizens who think their wee guns make them freer.
Sounds like a wonderful place. One time I imagined immigrating there...except they hardly let anyone in.
One of the scary things about Covid restrictions such as this---is that you have no one to advocate for you when alone in these places. Your loved ones can't see you. And who knows...maybe they decide a phone is too germy and take it away. And then, if THEY decide you need to be hospitalized, there is no one to advocate for you in the hospital. Or what if you don't want to be hospitalized, and they take you anyway?
There's lots of stories coming out of Elmhurst hospital (NY) about the chaos during the peak. The neglect, incompetence, deadly mistakes....and they had no one to speak up on their behalf because it wasn't allowed. You're at the mercy of the state, or the medical establishment. Which is worse? I've advocated for hospitalized family members and prevented disasters....That is another angle to the issue of forced quarantine 'hotels.'
Well given the stats are true (they likely arent) almost half the US deaths have been in nursing homes a.k.a. quarantined seniors
1. Lol. Sure, the US numbers are probably higher due to undercounting in the early days when the federal government totally botched the testing.
2. Do you even comprehend the two orders of magnitude difference?
3. You think that deaths in nursing homes should not count?
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