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Why is everyone upset about Joe not theoretically conceding the election when Donald in all likelihood will attack election process as unfair if he doesn't win? Seems very hypocritical.
My focus on this thread isn't Old Joe conceding. It's the fact that Hillary pipes in about it, when she herself and her voters haven't to this day let go of their 2016 loss, which they are making it part of the their 2020 election.
“I will look at it at the time,” the then-GOP nominee said during an Oct. 19 presidential debate. “I will keep you in suspense.”
Hillary:
“That’s horrifying. Let’s be clear about what he is saying and what that means. He is denigrating — he is talking down our democracy. And I am appalled that someone who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that position.”
“It’s funny, but it’s also really troubling,” she added. “That is not the way our democracy works.”
2020
Hillary to Biden:
"If you lose, don't accept the results of the election."
Biden will get so easily defeated in November, that he will have no choice but to concede.
As it is playing out now -- and his numbers will definitely get worse -- Joe Biden will be extremely lucky and very fortunate to carry every state Clinton did in 2016.
Biden will most likely lose New Hampshire, Minnesota, and maybe even Nevada, New Mexico and Virginia.
Biden and Co are actually starting to realize this now. That's precisely why Biden has only now, over the past 24 or so hours, mentioned anything about the violence, rioting, looting, protesting, CHOP/CHAZ, etc. that's been taking place across America for over the course of a number of months now.
The Demolibs are starting to really see the writing on the wall now.
Yeah, short of a rout I doubt either side will be conceding. Given all the mail-in ballots that need to be collected and counted, we'll be lucky if we get a decision a week after the election. I'm okay with that. It will produce a lot of drama though.
If Biden loses, it's going to be the Sore/Loserman recount fiasco all over again. That's likely one of the reasons why the demolibs are pushing mail-in voting so hard now. It will serve as one of their contingency plans for when they lose on election night.
Not sure how many of you remember that Sore/Loserman recount fiasco or not. Every time the demolibs did a recount, they miraculously discovered new votes in their party's favor. Every time.
I live in Virginia. You haven't got the slightest clue about this state. Currently there are 7 Democratic Representatives and 4 Republican.
The major population areas are NOVA (blue to the max), Hampton Roads (quite blue), Richmond metro (blue-ish and getting bluer by the day). The major growth areas? NOVA and the Richmond areas (generally accepted to mean the city plus most of Henrico and Chesterfield counties)
The rest of the state is fairly sparsely populated in comparison to those 3 areas. It's not a certainty, but it definitely leans Democratic now and demographics tend to favor that continuing.
I do have a clue about the state.
Clinton beat Trump in 2016, 1,981,473 to 1,769,443 votes. She beat him by well over 210,000 votes. The density of the population is in the DC suburbs on the Virginia side. Adding in the Richmond area and the Norfolk/Virginia Beach areas, they are mostly "blue."
Virginia's Democrat governor is worst of the worst. A racist who thinks he's tricked folks into thinking he is not, and a self-proclaimed late abortion advocate, Northam also is strongly against the 2nd amendment.
As-a-result, Virginia's conservative, independent and some moderate Democrat residents do not like the direction of California or Illinois, that the state is headed towards. There are still quite a few strong red populations and independents and moderate Democrats who are not liking what they see in Virginia at all.
Virginia has just recently gone blue, within the past 3 election cycles. Obama won in 2008 and 2012, and Clinton won in 2016. But prior to that, the state was red.
Bush won Virginia in 2004 with over 270,000 votes, against John Kerry.
So, Virginia is by no means a "lock" for Biden. Remember, Biden is a terrible candidate too.
Unless its an obvious blowout (not likely) expect this election to be contested like no other and the determination of outcome to drag on for months.
If Trump is crowned again, expect violence and a possible coup. The left will not go quietly into the night.
I think it's going to be an absolute blowout. There are a lot of mixed signals all over the place. It's going to be a blowout one way or the other.
The left hasn't gone quietly into the night since 2016. So violence is a given if Biden loses.
Clinton beat Trump in 2016, 1,981,473 to 1,769,443 votes. She beat him by well over 210,000 votes. The density of the population is in the DC suburbs on the Virginia side. Adding in the Richmond area and the Norfolk/Virginia Beach areas, they are mostly "blue."
Virginia's Democrat governor is worst of the worst. A racist who thinks he's tricked folks into thinking he is not, and a self-proclaimed late abortion advocate, Northam also is strongly against the 2nd amendment.
As-a-result, Virginia's conservative, independent and some moderate Democrat residents do not like the direction of California or Illinois, that the state is headed towards. There are still quite a few strong red populations and independents and moderate Democrats who are not liking what they see in Virginia at all.
Virginia has just recently gone blue, within the past 3 election cycles. Obama won in 2008 and 2012, and Clinton won in 2016. But prior to that, the state was red.
Bush won Virginia in 2004 with over 270,000 votes, against John Kerry.
So, Virginia is by no means a "lock" for Biden. Remember, Biden is a terrible candidate too.
Trump has a shot to flip Virginia this year.
You know nothing about Virginia. The Governor’s approval rating exceeds Trump’s in VA. The Democratic senators’ approval rating exceeds Trump’s.
We just had an election in November. Gun control was the major campaign issue. Those that supported it won. Those that didn’t lost. The only thing that has changed is that Virginia has gone even bluer and thousands of more young people have been registered to vote.
And Richmond isn’t “blue-ish”. It’s pretty solid blue. Henrico and Richmond are solid blue. That’s not goin to change for another generation or two. Chesterfield is blueish. Since ‘16 Chesterfield has grown younger and more ethnically diverse. Suburban women hate Trump
More than ever. Their voting trend of late won’t be changing, especially not for Trump.
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