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What is your version of being objective in this scenario?
Discussion and listening, instead of picking parts of posts that you disagree with and jumping all over them with emoticons.
I also expressed sympathy for the police in my post.
Listen, being a cop is just like any other job. You have people who are better at the job, people who are in it just for the $, and people who are d@uchebags. You have bad days. But you have good cops too.
I don't know how many domestic violence calls there were on that day by police all over the country that ended without a media sensationalist death, but there probably hundreds.
If this subforum is any indication, are you surprised that there are riots and people killing rioters?
People are unable to think grey ... only black and white.
But furthermore, I just really don't see the fun in posting in that manner. You already know what you're gonna say, no amount of convincing or facts will tear you away from your opinion ... you're just regurgitating the same thing over and over. To me, each separate incident/shooting over the last several years or decade is a separate case, and each is very, very different in terms of culpability.
The police could release information that he was reaching for an assault weapon and it wouldn't change the narrative. Some CNN commentator was still tweeting today that a black man who was breaking up a dispute was shot in the back by police.
Apparently he didn't watch the videos either.
Oh, they watch them, and they know they're lying right to our faces about it, and they know we know they're lying to our faces. But they don't care, because their lies are basically activation orders to their marauding foot soldiers to riot and smash and beat and then dare you to challenge the lies.
So, three cops can't handle one average unarmed man without using a firearm?
They need to hire stronger cops in Kenosha, obviously.
So three cops should put themselves in mortal danger by getting close enough to a guy armed with a knife to get stabbed or cut? That's not a reasonable thing to expect from anyone.
I do believe that they should’ve used pepper spray. I think in a lot of these unruly situations it should be pepper spray, tase, and then as a last resort to a threat using the gun. If they had used pepper spray he wouldn’t be able to see that well and this would’ve likely been avoided.
There should be some procedure for how to de escalate a situation first, given the circumstances, reaching in the car isn’t a bright move and it is almost asking for the use of deadly force. What I’m arguing is there was a more effective way that they could’ve tried to prevent him from getting to the car and reaching in.
Discussion and listening, instead of picking parts of posts that you disagree with and jumping all over them with emoticons.
I also expressed sympathy for the police in my post.
Listen, being a cop is just like any other job. You have people who are better at the job, people who are in it just for the $, and people who are d@uchebags. You have bad days. But you have good cops too.
I don't know how many domestic violence calls there were on that day by police all over the country that ended without a media sensationalist death, but there probably hundreds.
If this subforum is any indication, are you surprised that there are riots and people killing rioters?
People are unable to think grey ... only black and white.
But furthermore, I just really don't see the fun in posting in that manner. You already know what you're gonna say, no amount of convincing or facts will tear you away from your opinion ... you're just regurgitating the same thing over and over. To me, each separate incident/shooting over the last several years or decade is a separate case, and each is very, very different in terms of culpability.
First, thank you for taking the time to respond because I know you're frustrated. I get that. And we all get frustrated here - you're not alone.
In this case, video came out rather quickly so it's easy to arrive at some conclusions. But with some posters if you provide proof the sun is yellow, they'll argue that you're lying and it's a cloudy day which means it's gray. Thus the bickering.
Personally, I don't think they needed to unload 8 bullets in a man's back, but I've never had to do the job of a cop and I can see where they just keep going once that first bullet is shot.
This could have been avoided. It seemed like they did everything they could before they got to a point where they felt threatened. But that's just my opinion.
It's a rough group here and isn't for everyone. Even some of us crusty old-timers take breaks from it from time to time.
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