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So far every person the police have shot have an extensive police record. I have not seen a police shooting where the victim has a clean criminal record. Whether they deserve to die or not is a different story but so far the videos the last few weeks all showed some type of disobedience. Hey if someone has a gun and ask you to come peacefully and you fight back?
Errr....you wanted them to shoot him before they saw he had a gun?
Let's wait for the bodycam information to come out. (or not, after all LA is a *progressive city* 12 years behind my town. Apparently, progressive city goes hand in hand with letting their cops get away with anything, then whining about it and blaming others if politically useful. )
Then the partisans can ignore their own two eyes and post the same made up BS.
You want to justify shooting a guy after he drops his gun?
The point I was trying to make was they didn't even know he was armed, so they can't rely on perceived threat before the weapon was on the ground.
Whites make up nearly 50% of the population though. Blacks are only 13%, so the proportions matter.
Correct. So why do they commit a disproportionate number of crimes? There are answers to that question but to say it publicly is called racist. The only thing that is going to change the AA community is when the AA community starts taking personal responsibility for their individual actions.
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Correct. So why do they commit a disproportionate number of crimes? There are answers to that question but to say it publicly is called racist. The only thing that is going to change the AA community is when the AA community starts taking personal responsibility for their individual actions.
There will be no progress on the issue of why these things keep happening disproportionately to black MEN, until there is a frank discussion of disproportionate black criminality.
There are otherwise two options:
1) Defund the police and see innocent black people fall victim to black crime in greater numbers; or
2) Neuter the police's ability to respond to threats and accept that police will have higher casualties in dealing with black criminals - deaths, injuries, etc.
Either one will not make black people in general, safer. The USA isn't Canada or Europe. People are more violent. Criminals are armed and dangerous.
I think it's why something like 85% of black people are NOT in favor of "defunding" police, and think that police presence at current levels is acceptable in their communities.
Correct. So why do they commit a disproportionate number of crimes? There are answers to that question but to say it publicly is called racist. The only thing that is going to change the AA community is when the AA community starts taking personal responsibility for their individual actions.
It’s so obvious: It’s tied to the high OOW birthrate. It correlates with poverty, which in turn correlates with lower educational attainment, which in turn correlates with higher rates of crime. All the black community has to do is discourage unwed motherhood, and most of the problems would disappear in a generation.
So they shot him after they noticed he dropped a gun they weren't aware he had in the first place?
How is this a "good shoot"?
Because of the deadly force triangle; weapon, opportunity (within immediate reach) and intent. Still fuzzy on the intent part, but certainly not unreasonable to think after punching a cop he made a move for it.
If people want to know who is instigating these protests and whatnot, now you know.
As of now, there is no video evidence as the officers were not wearing bodycams.
But ultimately, as I have touched upon several times in the past, it doesn't matter to some people if in fact the man punched an officer and was reaching for a gun. To these people, NO reason is justifiable for police to use deadly force on a Black person these days.
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Apparently, progressive city goes hand in hand with letting their cops get away with anything, then whining about it and blaming others if politically useful. )
