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Old 09-04-2020, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Possible? He was overcharged. I read recently Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose and not a knee to the neck. According to autopsies. Not sure what to believe on the news these days. But lets go ahead and loot a Gucci store, burn down communities and kill people without solid evidence.
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Old 09-04-2020, 01:18 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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He was overcharged based on a selective video clip and a false liberal news media narrative.

Oh? WHAT specifically was false?
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Old 09-04-2020, 01:47 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Oh? WHAT specifically was false?
If you haven’t figured out the obvious yet, I probably can’t help you. But just in case, the liberal news media has convinced you (apparently) that white cops are going around randomly killing innocent black people.
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Old 09-04-2020, 06:12 AM
 
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No. There’s no possibility that he was overcharged.
Please make an argument with facts and not feelings how Chauvin "intended" to murder Floyd.

I have listed out facts that show logically that Chauvin didn't have intent. If Chauvin didn't have intent then he was overcharged.



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He sat there for a good minute. 8 actually. While being told he's gonna kill the man.


In the end, he killed the man.
The city told him to restrain someone who had resisted arrest exactly how he did it. One of the reasons they do that, is because a suspect acting erratically (and Floyd was acting very erratic) could run into the road and get hit by a car. If Floyd could talk continuously he could breathe. In the video this was even stated out loud.

Chauvin's knee didn't prevent Floyd from breathing, Floyd's fatal dose of fentanyl killed Floyd. This is why Floyd was complaining multiple times about not being able breathe before being restrained.

Floyd killed himself.

The only thing that could have saved Floyd was a hospital and Chauvin did two things to speed up a possible ambulance.
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Old 09-04-2020, 06:17 AM
 
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Please make an argument with facts and not feelings how Chauvin "intended" to murder Floyd.

I have listed out facts that show logically that Chauvin didn't have intent.





The city told him to restrain someone who had resisted arrest exactly how he did it. If Floyd could talk continuously he could breathe. In the video this was even stated out loud.

Chauvin's knee didn't prevent Floyd from breathing, Floyd's fatal dose of fentanyl killed Floyd. This is why Floyd was complaining multiple times about not being able breathe before being restrained.

Floyd killed himself.

The only thing that could have saved Floyd was a hospital and Chauvin did two things to speed up a possible ambulance.
That is correct.

2 mg of fentanyl is a HUGE dose that would kill anyone.

The outcome would have been the same, regardless of the police interaction. The only thing that would have saved him would have been on the scene administration of Naloxone.

Hopefully, justice (and not mob justice) will prevail and he will be freed. Floyd committed suicide by taking that dose and the cop is not the cause of his death.
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Old 09-04-2020, 06:27 AM
 
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Keith Ellison would have scored no political points charging the cops with criminal negligence or unintentional homicide. He knew he can’t get a conviction when he filed the charges. If they don’t reduce the charges before trial the cops are going to walk free, then the idiots will riot again which is probably the plan.
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Old 09-04-2020, 06:31 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Keith Ellison would have scored no political points charging the cops with criminal negligence or unintentional homicide. He knew he can’t get a conviction when he filed the charges. If they don’t reduce the charges before trial the cops are going to walk free, then the idiots will riot again which is probably the plan.
I sincerely hope whoever does the actual prosecution includes the option of choosing between charges so he doesn’t just walk. Our country doesn’t need the renewal of protests and rioting, assuming they are even done by then. He should be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

Involuntary Manslaughter: unintended killing of a person while committing a crime, or acting in a reckless or negligent manner.
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Old 10-17-2020, 07:06 AM
 
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That is correct.

2 mg of fentanyl is a HUGE dose that would kill anyone.

The outcome would have been the same, regardless of the police interaction. The only thing that would have saved him would have been on the scene administration of Naloxone.

Hopefully, justice (and not mob justice) will prevail and he will be freed. Floyd committed suicide by taking that dose and the cop is not the cause of his death.
The thing is, the left is literally denying science.

Floyd had hypertension and severe heart disease so he was already susceptible to the heart issue that killed him. Then throw in that he was overweight, had sickle cell, and Covid-19.

A side effect of fentanyl is that it creates problems for the heart and makes it feel like you can't breathe. He complained about not being able to breathe 6 times before Chauvin pinned him.

We know for a fact that fentanyl attacks the heart and he had a weak and damaged heart. Plus there was meth in his system on top of a lethal dose of fentanyl.

https://www.drugs.com/sfx/fentanyl-side-effects.html


The state will have to prove beyond a "reasonable doubt" that Chauvin both (1) Intended to kill and (2) did kill Floyd. In an honest court case that is near impossible, especially as Chauvin was the cop who sped up the ambulance. What happens if the court case is fair (as it should be)? Riots, murder, looting, arson, and leftist mayhem. Those are just the short-term effects. More police afraid to do their jobs equals increase in inner city violence and harder to economically develop the inner cities from the riots.

He should have been hit with manslaughter, which is gross negligence leading to a death, which is much easier to prove.
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