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Everyone is a "person of color" unless there are transparent people that we haven't detected due to their transparency.
Well, if you look at it from this angle, you open it up to the scientific definition of what constitutes a "color".
Technically, white and black are not a colors. They are both shades. Color is just a reflection of light.
White reflects light of all of the colors on the spectrum, combined.
Black is completely devoid of light (not transparency), and therefor black is completely devoid of color.
Nobody is true black or true white. Nothing can be pure white or pure black, except unfiltered sunlight or the depths of a black hole. So yes, everyone is technically a person of color.
Stop calling them "people of color" when they are white, and see themselves as white. That's a con.
POC is actually a politically relevant term. Progressive "Latinos" only see the group as "people of color" when they want to argue for funding, resources, and set-asides for people of color. They should get none of that. No they are not the largest minority group.
I fully agree.
While in the Navy, I circumnavigated South America once and visited almost every major coastal city on the continent over the course of 3 years.
The only thing that unites Hispanics is their language, and even that term barely fits, as Argentina doesn't call the language they speak Spanish. Theirs is called Castillianjo, and to them, that's official.
I prefer the term Hispanic over Latino because it's closer to being a more accurate description of the people.
There are a few cultural commonalities I found in all Hispanics because Spain ruled them all for so long and it's culture was so dominant, but each country is as individual in its culture as the U.S. is from Canada, Australia, or any of the other English colonies.
Latin America is actually a very vague term that's geographical in nature, implying South America only.
It's accurate geographically, as Brazil takes up almost half of the continent, and Portuguese is spoken there.
The two languages have about the same relationship as Spanish has to Italian.
But the term includes all the North American Spanish speaking countries into it, and Mexico, Puerto Rico, and half of Central America are all in North America.
If anyone has any actual experience like I had, they would instantly understand the many racial differences between such a large and diverse group.
In such a generalized term as People of Color, Italian-Americans, and any person from the entire region surrounding the Mediterranean Sea, could be called people of color just as well.
I think it is very hard or next to impossible to do that especially in a democracy. Different genetic groups have different cultural tendencies. Culture largely arise from a genetic grouping's tendencies.
Yes absolutely. But I also believe, and it's tied at least partly to outcomes you mention, some genetic groups favor and are more suitable to libertarian governance and society, and others favor and are more suitable to a more socialist and authoritarian governance. There seems to be other genetic group personality differences that make groups compatible and less compatible. So we should recognizes the political ramifications as well as the right to group freedom of association.
Genetics tied to politics? Off the rails...lol
The range of political affiliation among just Caucasians alone is so vast, it makes your argument preposterous. The world almost got nuclear obliteration as a gift from opposing ideologies amongst this group alone. Wow!!!
The differences are cosmetic only. Anything else is playing dress up. We really need to grow up.
The range of political affiliation among just Caucasians alone is so vast, it makes your argument preposterous. The world almost got nuclear obliteration as a gift from opposing ideologies amongst this group alone. Wow!!!
The differences are cosmetic only. Anything else is playing dress up. We really need to grow up.
It's really not. Research is finding there's differences in how the minds of liberals and conservatives work. Heredity is on average probably at least half responsible for our tendencies. It's not all environment. What's shaping a society's environment but the people who make it up in the first place?
If you look around the world even among the same racial groups there are many jurisdiction boundaries and borders. It is a good thing.
We need to stop making skin color and race and issue and stop talking about it constantly. Get a freaking life people.
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Somehow, if was an "underserved minority", and believed the lie that my group's lower outcomes relative to other groups were due to racism, I don't think I'd find that advice compelling. Conservatives need better talking points on this.
That's why conservatives will continue to lose in the culture war and become increasingly irrelevant.
With many of them being Baby Boomers, that makes the situation even more dire.
Case and point, whiteness is interchangeable. Recently a hispanic man shot up a mall, he had Nazi tattoos. Many people are mocking the idea of him being a Nazi now. I guess the hispanic entry into the umbrella of whiteness has been revoked.
Most Hispanics in our country and south of our border are Mestizos of mixed race. Usually white mixed with Amerindian so no they aren't plan ole white.
They should be “white” because Mexico & The United States signed a Treaty in 1848 called the Treaty of Guadalupe Hildalgo to end the Mexican- American War. That Treaty ceded Territory all the way West to California and North to Idaho to the USA.
One of the terms of the Treaty was that the Mexicans had one year to either claim Full US Citizenship OR Mexican Citizenship and leave the US and return to Mexico. The reason for this was Slavery, which Mexico was very much against. They wanted to make sure the Mexicans would ALWAYS have the protection of being designated as “”white”.
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if its welfare and crime statistics they are considered white that is all i know
It’s a Politicsl Construct, just as the US Census has always been a Political Construct.
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"The Latino community is incredibly diverse.
Unlike the Black community."
The Latino-Hispanic Community IS diverse, BUT so has the “black” Community become, eith the immigration from all parts of Africa.
Latinos/Hispanics come from all over the World, mostly Spain/Hispania & its Colonies and live in very diverse parts of the USA. THE “Latino” part is just that Spanish is is a derivative of the Latin Language….. as are many Languages. I’m guessing that nobody was much interested in calling any of Central America, South America - Spanish America. Latin (which was never a geographical term) America was more attractive.
About the Census Designations — for the 1st time in the 1930 Census, the box to check called Mexican appeared. That was discovered during the talks about the coming Census in 1929. There was a Loud Uproar about that.
In 1929, the League of the United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), a Mexican-American organization, formed in Corpus Christi, TX. One of their main organizing efforts was to get "Mexican" off the 1930 census. They protested: we are white race, we are Americans.
The Mexican government itself protested the category, because the entire Southwest used to be part of Mexico, and when it was taken over by the United States, they promised Mexico that the Mexican residents there would be treated as full citizens. Well, at the time, you had to be white to be a citizen. They brought a Lawsuit, supported by Mexico for the Treaty Violation. LULAC was the 1st of the Mexican American Activist groups.
The USA did not use the designation Mexican again until the 1970 Census - and it’s confusing to figure out exactly what type of Mexican/Hispanic/Latino box to check.
The Mexican population in Texas appears to prefer the old term Tejano, many in California appear to like Chicano - I don’t know enough about Puerto Ricans to guess their preference.
I, guessing not one in 100’s of 1,000’s know about the Provisions in one of the most important Treaties in US History. I grew up in South Texas, part of my family immigrated to the USA through Mexico, although they originated in Europe . We still hold lands on the US side of the Rio Grande.
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