The Pope crossed the line by mixing politics with religion and paving the way towards communism

[phma]

Originally Posted by Mtnluver8956

You hate Communism and infer the Church is communist, but welcome it when the CCP talks about it?

#LiberalLogic

That's an off the response in the form of a question !!!

The Pope is an elected dictator of a city state, the Vatican !!!

He appears to be supporting communism in much the same way democrats do !!!

[bobspez]

Originally Posted by phma

That's an off the response in the form of a question !!!

The Pope is an elected dictator of a city state, the Vatican !!!

He appears to be supporting communism in much the same way democrats do !!!

That's because it's not communism that either the Democrats or the Pope is supporting. It's simple humanitarianism. It's the definition of communism that conservatives in the 30's used to call FDR a communist for introducing Social Security. Now their goofy children are all happily using SS and Medicare and still calling Democrats communists. Of course to them Jesus would be a communist agitator.

[phma]

[quote=bobspez;59326862]

That's because it's not communism that either the Democrats or the Pope is supporting. It's simple humanitarianism.

I disagree !!!
Laying the ground work, starting down the path towards communism, is supporting communism whether it names communism or not !!!
There is no such thing as simple humanitarianism !!! Look it up, and its broken into pieces like a puzzle !!!
I'm not going to get bogged down in the swamp that is humanitarianism !!!

The Pope violates the principles of humanitarianism in his writings and has no faith in his own words !!!
He won't comply with his own ideas or he would remove the wall around the Vatican and dismiss the Swiss Guard !!! He would lead by example if he had faith in his own ideas and writings !!! He will never do that, or open up his treasury to be emptied out the way he expects other countries to do !!! Why is that ? Its a question that needs an answer ?

IMO, people are born innocent and pure of heart but change occurs all along the way to adulthood and few remain so innocent and pure of heart !!! Humanity produces heathens and savages and they have to be dealt with like it or not !!! Its not the fault of capitalism when all through history before capitalism the savages and heathens existed as part of the human condition !!!

The argument will no doubt continue about capitalisms !!! Some claim it has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system and some argue otherwise !!! The pope has taken a side in the argument and that is a violation of humanitarianism principal !!!

This link to a blog explores the argument on both sides !!!
700 million humans have moved out of deep poverty in the ...
https://www.aei.org/economics/intern...nk-capitalism/

700 million humans have moved out of deep poverty in the 21st century. Thank capitalism

Some astonishing figures from Pew Research. From 2001 to 2011, nearly 700 million people globally moved out of poverty, meaning $2 a day or less. And the share of humans who are either poor or low income ($2.01 to $10.00 a day) fell to 71% from 79% as middle-income nearly doubled to 13% from 7%.

Here is a link to humanitarianism should people want to explore it and question it as they should !!!
IMO, its more of an excuse to get more power and the church has been about aquiring more power through history !!!

Humanitarianism - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarianism

Contents
1 An informal ideology
2 A universal doctrine
3 Historical examples and periodization
4 Emergency response
5 Digital humanitarianism

Today, humanitarianism is particularly used to describe the thinking and doctrines behind the emergency response to humanitarian crises. In such cases it argues for a humanitarian response based on humanitarian principles, particularly the principle of humanity. Nicholas de Torrente, Executive Director of MSF-USA writes:

"The most important principles of humanitarian action are humanity, neutrality, independence and impartiality, which posits the conviction that all people have equal dignity by virtue of their being human based solely on need, without discrimination among recipients. Humanitarian organizations must refrain from taking part in hostilities or taking actions that advantage one side of the conflict over another, the §action serves the interests of political, religious, or other agendas.

It's the definition of communism that conservatives in the 30's used to call FDR a communist for introducing Social Security. Now their goofy children are all happily using SS and Medicare and still calling Democrats communists. Of course to them Jesus would be a communist agitator.

Its understandable why they would refer to FDR as communist !!!
As you point out, he took a giant step to put America on the path towards communism !!! He could rightly be called the founder of American Communism and its his party where people run for office calling themselves democrat socialist !!! Socialism is a stepping stone leading to communism and the Pope is an elected dictator lying/laying out the path in concert with democrats !!! He is not neutral as his writings prove !!!

[phma]

Originally Posted by TheEmissary

Jesus wouldn't vote for Trump!

Democrats have yet to get him to registered to vote !!!

Why is that ? It may have something to do with his residence status !!!

[bobspez]

It's simple. If you approve of putting undocumented children in cages and separating them from their parents, that is not humanitarian. The church was very anti-communist in WWII, so it gave tacit approval to Hitler exterminating millions of people, then paved the way for ex-Nazi upper echelons to start new lives in South America. All in the name of fighting Communism. Basically this pope has a conscience and can tell right from wrong, something his predecessors failed to do. If that aligns him with the policies of Democrats it's no surprise to me. Jesus fought for the right and against the wrong. That's supposed to be the model for every Pope.[quote=phma;59327934]

Originally Posted by bobspez

I disagree !!!
Laying the ground work, starting down the path towards communism, is supporting communism whether it names communism or not !!!
There is no such thing as simple humanitarianism !!! Look it up, and its broken into pieces like a puzzle !!!
I'm not going to get bogged down in the swamp that is humanitarianism !!!

The Pope violates the principles of humanitarianism in his writings and has no faith in his own words !!!
He won't comply with his own ideas or he would remove the wall around the Vatican and dismiss the Swiss Guard !!! He would lead by example if he had faith in his own ideas and writings !!! He will never do that, or open up his treasury to be emptied out the way he expects other countries to do !!! Why is that ? Its a question that needs an answer ?

IMO, people are born innocent and pure of heart but change occurs all along the way to adulthood and few remain so innocent and pure of heart !!! Humanity produces heathens and savages and they have to be dealt with like it or not !!! Its not the fault of capitalism when all through history before capitalism the savages and heathens existed as part of the human condition !!!

The argument will no doubt continue about capitalisms !!! Some claim it has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system and some argue otherwise !!! The pope has taken a side in the argument and that is a violation of humanitarianism principal !!!

This link to a blog explores the argument on both sides !!!
700 million humans have moved out of deep poverty in the ...
https://www.aei.org/economics/intern...nk-capitalism/

700 million humans have moved out of deep poverty in the 21st century. Thank capitalism

Some astonishing figures from Pew Research. From 2001 to 2011, nearly 700 million people globally moved out of poverty, meaning $2 a day or less. And the share of humans who are either poor or low income ($2.01 to $10.00 a day) fell to 71% from 79% as middle-income nearly doubled to 13% from 7%.

Here is a link to humanitarianism should people want to explore it and question it as they should !!!
IMO, its more of an excuse to get more power and the church has been about aquiring more power through history !!!

Humanitarianism - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarianism

Contents
1 An informal ideology
2 A universal doctrine
3 Historical examples and periodization
4 Emergency response
5 Digital humanitarianism

Today, humanitarianism is particularly used to describe the thinking and doctrines behind the emergency response to humanitarian crises. In such cases it argues for a humanitarian response based on humanitarian principles, particularly the principle of humanity. Nicholas de Torrente, Executive Director of MSF-USA writes:

"The most important principles of humanitarian action are humanity, neutrality, independence and impartiality, which posits the conviction that all people have equal dignity by virtue of their being human based solely on need, without discrimination among recipients. Humanitarian organizations must refrain from taking part in hostilities or taking actions that advantage one side of the conflict over another, the §action serves the interests of political, religious, or other agendas.



Its understandable why they would refer to FDR as communist !!!
As you point out, he took a giant step to put America on the path towards communism !!! He could rightly be called the founder of American Communism and its his party where people run for office calling themselves democrat socialist !!! Socialism is a stepping stone leading to communism and the Pope is an elected dictator lying/laying out the path in concert with democrats !!! He is not neutral as his writings prove !!!