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View Poll Results: It over! Which candidate won tonight's debate?
Harris 101 31.37%
Pence 221 68.63%
Voters: 322. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-08-2020, 08:09 AM
 
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Does she have any shame? Does she really think the voters are stupid? Following Goebbels rule of that if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth. Harris did it 4 times last night:

1. Repeats the "Very fine people on both sides" lie

2. Repeats the "Trump called soldiers suckers and losers" lie

3. Repeats the "Trump told us to inject bleach" lie

4. Repeats the "Trump refused to denounce white supremacy" lie.

If this moron feels its ok to say things like this as acceptable --then she and Biden have no business in the WH
And Pence repeated the following lies:

1. Biden will raise everyone's taxes lie

2. Biden wants to ban fracking lie

3. Trump stopped all travel from China lie

4. Biden opposed Trump's travel ban lie

5. Trump and Pence listen to science lie

6. Trump has a healthcare plan that will protect pre-existing conditions lie

Very ironic for any supporter of Trump, the Liar-in-Chief, to accuse others of lying. Pence is just Trump's loyal lapdog, which makes him guilty by association.
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:10 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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The only thing this moderator did wrong was to allow Pence to continue talking when his time was up. I've lost respect for Pence. I always though of him as being a decent person, but his support of trump's shenagins has me questioning this. I pray the Republican party does not back him in 2024. If so, they won't stand a chance to retake the WH.
I’ve lost respect for a Harris, oh wait I never respected her either. She’s the equivalent of a porn star in political stage, do and say what people want for her own advancement.
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:10 AM
 
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What you saw was an abbreviated version of what he said, not everything. You're probably judging it based on a clip on CNN. Do your own research for the full videos, only then you can make a informed decision.
Basically every single credible news outlet in the world reported everything on that list. What research are you referring to?
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:11 AM
 
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It's maddening, isn't it? Democrats are out in the streets protesting the disproportionate imprisonment of African-American men, and yet don't care or know, that Biden's 1994 crime bill put many of these very people away in prison for decades. Harris repeatedly and openly defied U.S. Supreme Court orders to reduce overcrowding in California prisons while serving as that state’s attorney general.

Meanwhile, trump signed police and Prison Reform, something Obama/Biden always promised on the campaign trail, but never bothered to actually do. and yet Biden voters probably think it's Harris/Biden who are the police and prison reform candidates.
YEAH, I'm sooo angry that the rioting was not a question last night. As soon as the mod said "we are an unbias organization.." I immediately thought, yeah right, who are we kidding here.
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:12 AM
 
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Basically every single credible news outlet in the world reported everything on that list. What research are you referring to?
Can you not google it yourself for the full videos. I mean seriously people... are you all that lazy? There are numerous posts on her with Kamala contradicting herself and yet you still believe she's telling the truth.
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:12 AM
 
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I gave up when Pence brought up Swine Flu again. But talked to my father about it, he thought Harris won. And my father is still a registered Republican even if he wouldn't be caught dead voting Trump.
Swine flu is very true though.

It spread like wildfire. It just isn't as deadly as C19.
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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If Trump loses, I'd say his failure on health care will be a big reason for it. Just look at how Pence completely dodged the pre-existing condition question. It's clear these guys have no real plan.
I think that possibly that is because the answer is very complicated.

if I were asked the question, the answer would be "It depends." For example, it has been said and/or written that someone could possibly be denied because if s/he has had a continuous history of high blood pressure, that only those people who are in very good to excellent health would be allowed to have insurance. I think that is wrong. However, in the case of someone who smokes, weighs 350 pounds and has high blood pressure, I would say that a private insurer would have the right to deny insurance to that person. So that being said, it would come down to certain minimum standards as to what degree a person has a pre-existing condition and how many.

Although it would be tempting for me to say that people's premiums could or should be based on how healthy or unhealthy they are, I can see how how this would lead to charges of discrimination; and this whole question of "how much is too much" would lead to endless wrangling with nothin being resolved for years.
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The truth is, President Trump speaks in a way where no one really knows what he is saying. Which is why everything is open to interpretation. The reality is that list is much bigger.....and really paints a broad picture of this Presidency, which is you can't trust anything coming out of his mouth. A politician in true form.
This is partially the fault of an antagonistic hate-Trump press. They don't want to faithfully report the facts and allow the readers or audience to make their own decisions. they want to create the news, substitute their own biased alternate facts to fit their narrative.

Just watch the presser about Charlottesville. Trump had to continually repeat himself because the press never let him complete a sentence. All they did was interrupt him, forcing him to either repeat himself or back track to a point he was making earlier, which was also interrupted. The problem is the press has a narrative they want to push, and as soon as Trump punches holes in it, they interrupt him.
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:15 AM
 
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Can you not google it yourself for the full videos. I mean seriously people... are you all that lazy? There are numerous posts on her with Kamala contradicting herself and yet you still believe she's telling the truth.
You guys started this thread, you are making the claims. Back it up then with sources.
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:15 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Pot meet kettle.

If you added up the lies of Trump Biden Pence and Harris you would have to measure in solar masses.
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