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Here's my take on court packing: I've voting for Trump and the one issue that could change my mind is if he announced his intention to pack the court. The fact that Dems are openly discussing court packing as a viable plan shows how out of touch they are and underlines their "the ends justifies the means" mentality. Court packing is wrong no matter who does it and is the single most important issue to consider in the upcoming election.
No one has packed the courts. For God’s sake people, get the terminology right. The Republicans have STACKED THE COURTS, meaning they have shoved conservatives in every vacancy of already established judicial positions that has arisen, including leftover ones from Obama. FDR tried to PACK THE COURT - manning he tried to creat NEW judicial positions so he could swing the courts to progressive and there were not enough vacancies to do that unless he invented new ones.
Absolutely. Mitch stacked the court with hundreds of vacancies that he stalled during Obama. Democrats will finish what Mitch started.
Do you think the dems would have done any differently in today's world.
The DEMS treated John Tower so bad during his hearing that afterward he said, "Where do I go to get my reputation back". Then we had judge Bork, Clarence Thomas and Kavanaugh.
Repub have voted almost Unanimously for DEM nominated judges even though try disagreed with their postilions. NOT so when dems vote on REPUB nominations.
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But we don't know what they will do. They probably don't know what they'd do until they evaluate the situation in the future. Who knows, maybe Joe is 50/50 on the idea. Maybe he's leaning against it but doesn't want to shut the door completely without evaluating it.
Why would they give an answer if they aren't sure what they'd do right now. Then they'd look like flip-flopping Trump who changes his mind 3 times in one day.
The right has played hard ball twice regarding SCOTUS so the left can play hard ball too if they choose. But Joe is a moderate and he likes to get consensus and reach across the isle. Maybe Joe doesn't want to play hard ball like the righties do. Who knows. One can only guess what he'll do.
There's nobody who believes what you wrote in the bolded ^^^^. Nobody.
According to the Constitution, they need the White House and the Senate. That is all.
They get those two things they can permanently wreck what part of the country the Demoncrats haven't wrecked, already.
Wrong. Have you read the Constitution?
It says that the makeup of the courts is up to Congress to decide. Presumably that means the House and Senate have to agree. The President has no say in the matter.
Anyway, this is all much ado about nothing. The Dems are clearly holding this sword of Damocles over Republicans heads, hoping they won’t go ahead with the confirmation before the election. Highly doubtful that they would actually go through with it, because it is a double edged sword.
"For God’s sake people, get the terminology right." You FIRST, Practice what you preach.
"The Republicans have STACKED THE COURTS, meaning they have shoved conservatives in every vacancy"
So, replacing positions that DEMS held is now "shoved". How many of those that Trump replaced would be considered "conservative"?
So many IGNORE that a DEM president nominates people who he THINKS WILL rule IN support of his positions. And REPUB president will do the SAME thing.
Been going on since we became country.
We do not disagree. Not sure why what I wrote riled you up so.
I will be voting for McConnell, still haven’t decided between Trump and Jorgensen. Clearly, I don’t have an issue with McConnell putting as many textualists on the bench as possible. But, let’s be honest here, he has indeed shoved as many what he deems conservative judges in as fast as he can manage, and he makes no secret about it. Matter of fact, he wrote a book on the topic. I have no intention of pretending that isn’t exactly what he is doing. Frankly, I think he’s a little creepy, but still a political genius and I admire his acumen.
Yes, of course, the Democrats try to do it too. I believe that is how we ended up with so many liberal judges in the courts currently. Just right now, no one is better at it than McConnell.
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Considering a large majority of Americans are not right wing religious fanatics hellbent on breaking the rule of separation of church and state, I am all favor for increasing the court limit size to better represent the American People. That's why we have a system that allows it.
Here's my take on court packing: I've voting for Trump and the one issue that could change my mind is if he announced his intention to pack the court. The fact that Dems are openly discussing court packing as a viable plan shows how out of touch they are and underlines their "the ends justifies the means" mentality. Court packing is wrong no matter who does it and is the single most important issue to consider in the upcoming election.
You are absolutely correct. Anyone who proposes to pack the court, meaning adding a number of hand picked and approved Justices to the existing nine, indicates their objective is not to have our Supreme Court abide by the text of our Constitution and its legislative intent as expressed during its framing and ratification process, which gives context to its text. Their objective is to create a majority which may then impose their personal view of social justice, fairness and reasonableness as the “rule of law’, even though such rulings are not in harmony with the intentions and beliefs under which our Constitution was adopted. And thus, our Constitution becomes a meaningless document subject to the whims and fancies of a Supreme Court's majority.
JWK
"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges’ views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." – Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968
Considering Biden says voters don’t deserve to know what the Democrat Party Leadership is up to, why would any democrat vote for Biden?
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JWK
The Biden/Harris Administration’s plan to keep Obamacare, which currently covers less than 20 million people ___ many being foreigners/aliens ___ will outlaw the existing private health insurance plans for over 150 million American Citizens, and force them into a Socialist, Cuban style healthcare system.
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