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Old 10-22-2020, 07:29 AM
 
Location: West Coast U.S.A.
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Anti-mask, deep red Idaho deaths per million from covid 306

Pro mask, deep blue New Jersey deaths per million from covid 1,843
Give it time. New Jersey, with it's close proximity to international travel hubs, was hit hard early on while Idaho, with its relative isolation, had it easy in the beginning. Death rates follow infection rates by a few weeks to a couple of months, so those numbers will be changing soon, although Idaho residents will benefit from the knowledge gained by the states that were hit hard early on.

If New Rersey had been as sloppy as Idaho in their reaction to the pandemic, their death rate might be ten times higher today. And if Idaho had played it smart instead of doing what the fool on The Hill said, their death toll might have been as low as 0.

Idaho is learning the hard way that COVID is real and not just some Democratic hoax. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Old 10-22-2020, 07:56 AM
 
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Give it time. New Jersey, with it's close proximity to international travel hubs, was hit hard early on while Idaho, with its relative isolation, had it easy in the beginning. Death rates follow infection rates by a few weeks to a couple of months, so those numbers will be changing soon, although Idaho residents will benefit from the knowledge gained by the states that were hit hard early on.

If New Rersey had been as sloppy as Idaho in their reaction to the pandemic, their death rate might be ten times higher today. And if Idaho had played it smart instead of doing what the fool on The Hill said, their death toll might have been as low as 0.

Idaho is learning the hard way that COVID is real and not just some Democratic hoax. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
That’s the thing about viruses and epidemiology, it is true whether you believe it or not.
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Old 10-22-2020, 08:27 AM
 
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My deep red county, which is home to a rural regional hospital has been taking CoVid patients from the occasionally overwhelmed deep blue urban city 45 minutes away on and off since almost the beginning of it hitting our state. It makes perfect sense given that the big city has anywhere between 25-30% of the states’ cases and our seven county area has had no more than 3-5% of the cases. We had empty beds, including ICU beds, and they were putting people on gurneys in hallways.

Our state has also taken patients from other states with much higher infection rates. What is your point?
The point is clear: Idaho has avoided the mask mandate because Gov Brad Little is in lockstep with the Trump administration. People have begged the governor to issue a statewide mandate long ago as cases began to spike after Labor Day. Concerned residents reported to the governor in a townhall that local jurisdictions are not enforcing their local mask mandates or social distancing guidelines. The governor shirked all public health responsibility for the state: https://www.boisestatepublicradio.or...ittle#stream/0

From the article 3 weeks ago:

During Tuesday’s town hall hosted by AARP Idaho, several callers confronted Gov. Brad Little. They were frustrated that not much was being done, in their minds, to cut the spread of COVID-19, including Craig from Twin Falls.

“Why haven’t we mandated the wearing of masks? Why doesn’t anybody have the political backbone to do that?” he asked

Little punted that responsibility to public health districts, which have the authority to do so under state law. He also said a statewide order doesn’t make sense for areas of Idaho with little spread of the disease.


Apparently, the spread is enough to make them send patients out of state. Idaho health systems have approached Seattle and Portland for assistance. I’m surprised you actually have to ask what the point was. There are only so many ways this can be explained, but the title of this thread sums it all up.

Seattle and Portland are always ready and willing to assist. They believe in science and take this pandemic seriously.
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Old 10-22-2020, 08:36 AM
 
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Sometime you just have to put politics aside
Very true. Put on a mask. Social distance. These aren’t political acts.
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Old 10-22-2020, 09:19 AM
 
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Sometime you just have to put politics aside, something the left obviously can't do. Ever.

If it was up to them, "political affiliation" would be a question on a hospital admission form.
Agreed, only problem is if Portland or Seattle needed help, that is NOT the way the right would view it.
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Old 10-22-2020, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Agreed, only problem is if Portland or Seattle needed help, that is NOT the way the right would view it.
Of course not.
When they vote for Trump, this is what they are voting for:

New York, Portland, Ore., Washington, D.C., and Seattle could lose funding for a wide swath of programs that serve their poorest, sickest residents after the president moved last month to restrict funding, escalating his political battle against liberal cities he’s sought to use as a campaign foil.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...navirus-430498
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Old 10-22-2020, 09:42 AM
 
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Of course not.
When they vote for Trump, this is what they are voting for:

New York, Portland, Ore., Washington, D.C., and Seattle could lose funding for a wide swath of programs that serve their poorest, sickest residents after the president moved last month to restrict funding, escalating his political battle against liberal cities he’s sought to use as a campaign foil.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...navirus-430498
Exactly. We have never had a president so overtly attack the other side the way Trump has. Biden wouldn’t do it back but I wish he would.

And here’s the thing, if Biden were to win, the right would start whining about grace, bipartisanship and states rights. In spite of the last four years of “I drink librul tears” and “make librul heads explode”. That is why Idaho needing assistance from blue states is getting an eye roll. We all know how it would be if the reverse were to occur.
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Old 10-22-2020, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Well it's a matter of life and death, so that takes priority. Hopefully the medical staffs can help. Personally I've got nothing against the folks in Idaho. We're all in this to the end.
Aww you're nice . I agree. This is not a political matter. A life is a life whether it be a Trump or Biden supporter. I'd help them too. I never once asked any of my patients who they voted for.
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Old 10-22-2020, 10:39 AM
 
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Rural areas in America are starting to get hit hard by the pandemic, which will cause deaths to skyrocket because hospital care in those areas limited.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...gtype=Homepage
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Old 10-22-2020, 11:03 AM
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So Idaho's population grew by "46.5% percent over the past two weeks"? Odd.

https://komonews.com/news/coronaviru...attle-portland
No. Cases of COVID grew by 46.5% in Idaho.
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