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Old 11-10-2020, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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The US just showed the rest of the world how to run elections

We did indeed.

We showed that even if you somehow get an unqualified wannabe autocrat in as a leader, he can still be ousted in a robust democracy.
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Old 11-10-2020, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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If the Democrats want any Trump voters to accept the results of this election they shouldn't try to sweep allegations of voter fraud under the rug. There have been enough credible reports of questionable activity to warrant a full dose of sunlight on those actions.
The only way he has a chance of governing is if these allegations are investigated. If they are not tens of millions of people, whole states and even whole regions will ignore his authority basically nullifying it.

If they actually try to implement socialism or curb our personal liberties there will be mass resistance no matter what.
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Old 11-10-2020, 07:49 AM
 
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The US election has been under the spotlight on a world stage...and the show is half way through ...



Well, the first climax of the show conveys an inspiring message to the rest of the world that if you can engineer the results, why bother to campaign for votes but to sleep through in a basement; and further, why bother to run the country up with an effective set of policies but to the country down to the ground by compromising essential values that are essential in sustaining the long term prosperity of a society??


I better little Kim/Putin/Xi are laughing at the fake democracy/equality/fairness/transparency governing values that the US politicians have been promoting worldwide while they act no differently from those regimes they like to criticize.
Well...…………………….It will show how you remedy fraud and will alert other nations to the methods used. Trump did not create this- the DNC did.

The DNC went way too far and this may be their end. A little fraud has been their tradition and has been ignored. A fraud on this scale was a coup and they must have realized what would happen.

The DNC may be labeled a "terrorist organization" going forward after this mess is cleaned up. If they are allowed to still exist, the party will have a fading of power going forward.
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Old 11-10-2020, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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I better little Kim/Putin/Xi are laughing at the fake democracy/equality/fairness/transparency governing values that the US politicians have been promoting worldwide while they act no differently from those regimes they like to criticize.
Exactly. Claiming Fraud when you lose is not a good look.

While the rest of the world laughs at Trump we have to live through the baseless claims while his fake patriot followers get fired up because, don't ya know, they're victims....again.

4 years of being victims and nobody with a brain big enough to do something about it.
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Old 11-10-2020, 07:53 AM
 
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Well...…………………….It will show how you remedy fraud and will alert other nations to the methods used. Trump did not create this- the DNC did.

The DNC went way too far and this may be their end. A little fraud has been their tradition and has been ignored. A fraud on this scale was a coup and they must have realized what would happen.

The DNC may be labeled a "terrorist organization" going forward after this mess is cleaned up. If they are allowed to still exist, the party will have a fading of power going forward.



why not......i would like to see the O-guy(s) behind this operation be help accountable...
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Old 11-10-2020, 07:54 AM
 
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The US just showed the rest of the world how to run elections

We did indeed.

We showed that even if you somehow get an unqualified wannabe autocrat in as a leader, he can still be ousted in a robust democracy.
You do realize, don't you, that the gig is up and is going to be reversed?

When all the evidence is presented to the American public in the aftermath, even democrats will be shocked.

I really think that MOST democrats are honest people and only the radicals are corrupt. That being said, the honest democrats will evaluate the information and realize what the DNC did.

It will take a while for the mainstream media to report, but Trump will most likely address the nation when this is over and explain point by point what was done, how it was discovered, and the process that was required after the discovery. When the public knows, they will be shocked.
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Old 11-10-2020, 08:57 AM
 
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Imagine trying to sow the seeds of democracy worldwide and then doing it this badly. By comparison, Bolivia's elections were a cakewalk.
Imagine the Bush Controlled USA calling out Ukraine in 2004for Election Fraud and then doing the same things in 2020 that they called Fraud in 2004. That same Bush Family is falling all over itself to celebrate US Leftists in 2020.

US State Department Report to the US House International Relations Committee

Looks like a Blueprint of US Election 2020.


The following are examples of the most egregious, widely observed and reported examples of election-day fraud on November 21:

Illegal Use of Absentee Ballots: According to the respected NGO "Committee of Voters of Ukraine" (CVU), massive electoral fraud was committed through the illegal use of absentee voter certificates. For example, people were caught in Dnipropetrovsk and Sumy oblasts with their pockets stuffed with blank absentee ballots that they were using to vote at multiple polling stations.

Opposition Observers Ejected: Observers from Our Ukraine and other opposition groups were expelled from most polling stations in eastern Ukraine on Election Day. For example, in Territorial Election Commission (TEC) district number 42 in Donetsk oblast, Our Ukraine observers were kicked out of all but a few polling stations.

North Korean-Style Turnout in the East: Turnout in the pro-Yanukovych eastern oblasts was unnaturally high. In several electoral districts, turnout for the run-off round increased by 30 to 40 percent over the first round. In Luhansk oblast, the reported turnout rate hit nearly 96 percent -- a number that, to quote the OSCE, even Stalinist North Korea would envy. A similar turnout rate was reported in Donetsk oblast, where 98 percent of the votes went to hometown candidate Prime Minister Yanukovych.

Mobile Ballot Box Fraud: In the second round of the election, the number of voters who supposedly cast ballots at home using mobile ballot boxes was double that of the first round. Much of this voting occurred without observers being present and was massively fraudulent. In Mykolayiv oblast, for example, nearly 35 percent of the oblast's voters purportedly cast their ballots "at home."

Computer Data Allegedly Altered To Favor Yanukovych: There were credible reports showing that that Yanukovych supporters gained illegal access to the Central Election Commission's computer system and illegally altered vote tabulation data being transmitted by TECs to the CEC.

Reports of Opposition Fraud: Yanykovych’s supporters allege that Yushchenko’s supporters stuffed ballot boxes in western Ukraine. But the reports and evidence of pro-Yanukovych fraud greatly outweighed those indicated for Yushchenko.

This massive ballot-box stuffing, fake turnout figures, and other forms of fraud and abuse allowed the authorities to create a victory for their candidate that almost certainly would not have been possible in a free and fair election.
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Old 11-10-2020, 09:25 AM
 
Location: EU
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Well, in my country (EU) there have been many articles about the 2020 US voting anomalies and we generally find it very surprising that such anomalies and possibly a large-scale voter fraud could happen in the United States.


In fact most countries banned mail-in ballots. The reason? Massive voter fraud problems occured in the past.


This is a study about mail-in ballot bans because of voter fraud, you can download the whole paper: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=3666259
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Old 11-10-2020, 09:37 AM
 
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Mail in ballots happened because of COVID...

We are soon able to vote by phone I'm my country...


But.. if Republicans would just have agreed to spend more money opening up MORE voting areas in poorer areas, so people dont have to wait in line for 2-3 hours would increase turnout.

But Republicans dont want Turnout.. they want less voters, because thats when they win.
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Old 11-16-2020, 08:38 AM
 
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If you cannot think through the scale of the fraud, I suggest that you look to those who can and have publicly expressed their support for Trump in his legal winning of this election:




Stephen Schwarzman defended Donald Trump at CEO meeting on election results



https://www.ft.com/content/558f2a68-...d-fae5458b3e64


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Blackstone founder Stephen Schwarzman defended Donald Trump’s response to this year’s US poll results during an emergency meeting of senior business leaders alarmed by the president’s claims that the election is being stolen, according to several participants. About 30 chief executives — of companies as large as Goldman Sachs, Johnson & Johnson and Walmart — agreed to the emergency Zoom meeting on the morning of November 6, only hours after Mr Trump said the night before that he had won several states that had voted for Mr Biden.
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