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Old 11-12-2020, 12:01 PM
 
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Marco Rubio is right. The future of the Republican party is as a multi-ethnic, working class coalition. And after this election, the future is now. It is also as the party of 'Fair trade' and small business, as opposed to the Bush/Neo-con ideology of 'Free trade' (for the large globalist corporations and the globalist establishment elites) and large corporations.

Ted Cruz (Actually Rafael Edward Cruz) - another Hispanic Republican Senator, as Marco Rubio also is - has recently said that the Republican party must be the party of "Jobs". Right on, Rafael.

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Marco Rubio says future of GOP is 'multiethnic, multiracial, working-class coalition'

What’s got Marco so chipper? Simple: It’s Trump’s gains among Latino voters on election night. One of the reasons why Rubio’s role in the Gang of Eight was such a liability for him in the 2016 primaries is that border hawks convinced themselves that the GOP wouldn’t be viable as a major party if the Latino population grew. Minorities vote for Democrats, period.

So imagine his delight when Trump, ironically the most anti-immigration Republican president in ages, proved that the Latino vote might be gettable after all. Here is a tweet by Senator Rubio where he gleefully observes: "#Florida & the Rio Grande Valley showed the future of the GOP A party built on a multi-ethnic multi-racial coalition of working AMERICANS".
https://twitter.com/marcorubio/statu...38552292859906

President Trump has completely changed the Republican party in these various respects. In 2012, after Mitt Romney lost, the Republican establishment requisitioned a post-mortem analysis on why they lost. The conclusion was to accept the premises of the Democrat's racial agenda and propose trying to follow behind the Democrats and pick up whatever racial crumbs they could, because they conceded that of course non-caucasian were naturally destined to vote for Democrats, by and large.

It was as infuriating as it was foolish and wrong.

There is no need to divide everyone up into different groups and promise handouts and special programs for each group. That is racism, and it is what we need to be getting away from, not doubling down on. People regardless of their skin pigmentation value economic opportunity, jobs, respect and space for them to practice their religious beliefs, freedom of speech, etc. By providing these to everyone, certainly including the 'multi-ethnic, multi-racial, working class' that is very appealing to those who are willing to work hard and to start small businesses across the country.

The Democrats do NOT have a lock on the multi-ethnic voters and this election has demonstrated that in no uncertain terms. That cat is out of the bag and it is not going back in. As a result, the political prospects for the Republicans going forward are MUCH brighter than what most people thought they were before this election.

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Old 11-12-2020, 12:08 PM
 
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The Democrats do NOT have a lock on the multi-ethnic voters and this election has demonstrated that in no uncertain terms. That cat is out of the bag and it is not going back in. As a result, the political prospects for the Republicans going forward are MUCH brighter than what most people though before this election.
Trump drove GOP turnout. Hes sort of right to call himself the golden goose. Because without him the GOP will not see this sort of turnout ever again.

Also without him the Democrats wont see this huge turnout either. He drove folks to vote by either their cultlike following of him, or their utter hatred of him. There wasn't much in between.

After he leaves office I suspect he will either try and run the GOP via threats and owning the RNC. The GOP has let him get too entrenched. Trump will be the lefts Soros, only real, and with no ethics or morals.

Because of this-the Rights not going to go multi ethnic. LOL. Fool people maybe, but at heart? Nope. I am not sure how this will play out in the end for political prospects of the GOP, but I think people dont understand that Trump doesn't care about them at all, he only cares about himself.
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Old 11-12-2020, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Latino voters are far from being a monolithic voting block. Geography and background often play a large role in how they vote. the fake "family"-values message coupled with the supposed specter of "socialism" was very effective with south Florida Latino voters. They also made gains in south texas.

However, the reverse happened in AZ.

How the Latino vote shifted historically red Arizona to blue

Pennsylvania, a state not very known for having a high latino population, has one area of the state where it is growing pretty substaintially, the Leigh Valley. Trump won that area and it carried him to the presidency in 2016. In 2020, he lost the Leigh Valley and it was a real dent in his numbers.

The demographic that could tip Pennsylvania - Politico

^this ended up coming true.
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Old 11-12-2020, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Latino voters are far from being a monolithic voting block. Geography and background often play a large role in how they vote. the fake "family"-values message coupled with the supposed specter of "socialism" was very effective with south Florida Latino voters. They also made gains in south texas.

However, the reverse happened in AZ.

How the Latino vote shifted historically red Arizona to blue

Pennsylvania, a state not very known for having a high latino population, has one area of the state where it is growing pretty substaintially, the Leigh Valley. Trump won that area and it carried him to the presidency in 2016. In 2020, he lost the Leigh Valley and it was a real dent in his numbers.

The demographic that could tip Pennsylvania - Politico

^this ended up coming true.
Of course, Trump will end up narrowly losing PA most likely after Democrats sued to keep the Green Party off of the ballot and despite very high voter turnout due to the availability of mass vote by mail, which will not be the case going forward if we are not in a pandemic.
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Old 11-12-2020, 12:19 PM
 
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The Republican party is the party of the people. This is not new.
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Old 11-12-2020, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Of course, Trump will end up narrowly losing PA most likely after Democrats sued to keep the Green Party off of the ballot

The margins aren't close enough for that to have made a difference. Howie Hawkins received 1/5 the total votes of that Jill Stein did. Even if you add PA and WI back and add the % that they gave Stein in 2016 (probably would have been less), it would not have made up the difference.

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despite very high voter turnout due to the availability of mass vote by mail, which will not be the case going forward if we are not in a pandemic.
The PA state legislature passed the mail-in-ballot law in 2019 so I am not sure what you mean exactly with this statement. It didn't have anything to do with the pandemic. The "extension" of uncounted votes was due to the pandemic but those votes haven't been tallied into the totals.

Governor Wolf Signs Historic Election Reform Bill Including New Mail-in Voting - Oct. 31 2019
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Old 11-12-2020, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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The Republican party is the party of the people. This is not new.

If they were the party of the "People", why has the GOP only won the popular vote once in the last 30 years?


The Republican party is the party of gerrymandering and land.
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Old 11-12-2020, 12:35 PM
 
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GoP needs to fire the old head that resist change...
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Old 11-12-2020, 12:39 PM
 
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I don't see any Republican other than Trump that can pull black and Hispanic voters.
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Old 11-12-2020, 12:57 PM
 
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If they were the party of the "People", why has the GOP only won the popular vote once in the last 30 years?


The Republican party is the party of gerrymandering and land.
Because of the dramatic imbalance of voters in one state. California. Aside from California, the Republicans do quite well in states across the country in terms of the popular vote.

Also, it would be interesting to see what the vote totals look like with all of the illegal Democrat left orchestrated voter fraud removed from the counts. I will not try to predict the number, but it would be large.
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