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Old 11-22-2020, 06:43 AM
 
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Apples and oranges. Trump was impeached because there was actual evidence of Russian meddling in order to influence the 2016 election and that Trump and his people had ties to Russia. The only reason Trump kept his job is that the Republican-dominated Senate declined to convict him. On the other hand, there is no credible evidence of malfeasance in the 2020 election. Nearly every case has been thrown out of court.
Trump was impeached because he used his position of power to try to get foreign entities to launch investigations against his political rivals, in this case in Ukraine. It was not because of ties to Russia. Trumps ties to Russia are through dirty Russian mob backed loans he's received because no one else would give him money. Whether Putin could influence him policy wise based on that connection, there is no direct evidence, but his treatment of Putin in general has been anything between friendly to out right adulation, so while there is no direct evidence, it isn't a stretch to think that something is there.
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Old 11-22-2020, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Ga
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Omg with the delusion ...

Are y’all gonna beat this horse to death like y’all did Obama’s birth certificate and being a Muslim?

Y’all can’t seriously make it to adulthood and be this stupid?
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Old 11-22-2020, 04:20 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Is that the reason the DNC media in San Fran tells you Trump was impeached?

When you can’t even get the impeachment facts right, what else is wrong in your mind? Enjoy Biden.
I stand corrected on the reason for the impeachment. It was because Trump was trying to pressure the Ukraine to get dirt on Biden in exchange for releasing US aid to the country. But Trump was impeached just the same. I think there's a good chance he would have been convicted had the Senate not voted along partisan lines.

I will very much enjoy having Biden as my president, thank you.
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Old 11-24-2020, 01:07 PM
 
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Suspicious addresses used by mail in voters:

Matt Braynard (@MattBraynard) Tweeted:
Update:

- Sample of the postal facilities (USPS, FedEx, UPS) addresses disguised as apartments, etc. in Georgia.

I will release the full dataset for GA and PA with the package that includes the survey toplines, etc. https://t.co/ifXe0SPKBk
https://twitter.com/MattBraynard/sta...910761476?s=20

Rule page for mail in ballot in Georgia:
https://twitter.com/MattBraynard/sta...474617857?s=20

Last edited by Maryclaire; 11-24-2020 at 01:15 PM..
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Old 11-27-2020, 12:39 PM
 
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I blame CNN
Of course you do. Bless your heart.
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Old 11-27-2020, 12:46 PM
 
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What he is doing is analyzing the data that came from a phone survey, and from that perspective is likely mathematically correct. It does make me suspicious that the phone survey questions only related to Republican voters. That suggests potential bias in the questioning, particularly as Republicans were notoriously reluctant to respond to polls prior to the election. For a balanced analysis, you'd want to look at both groups of voters, and do it in an unbiased manner. I'll say it's dubious evidence.
Not really. Fraud allegations are on democrats, not republicans trying to rig the election. From the article:

According to Pennsylvania state data for early and absentee ballot requests, there are roughly 165,000 ballots requested in the names of registered GOP voters that had not been counted as of Nov. 16.
Federal Election Commission Chairman Trey Trainor told Just the News that Miller's analysis provides fresh evidence of potential voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election.
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Old 11-27-2020, 12:48 PM
 
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Trump was impeached because he used his position of power to try to get foreign entities to launch investigations against his political rivals, in this case in Ukraine. It was not because of ties to Russia. Trumps ties to Russia are through dirty Russian mob backed loans he's received because no one else would give him money. Whether Putin could influence him policy wise based on that connection, there is no direct evidence, but his treatment of Putin in general has been anything between friendly to out right adulation, so while there is no direct evidence, it isn't a stretch to think that something is there.
All debunked.
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Old 11-27-2020, 12:49 PM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
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Not really. Fraud allegations are on democrats, not republicans trying to rig the election. From the article:

According to Pennsylvania state data for early and absentee ballot requests, there are roughly 165,000 ballots requested in the names of registered GOP voters that had not been counted as of Nov. 16.
Federal Election Commission Chairman Trey Trainor told Just the News that Miller's analysis provides fresh evidence of potential voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election.
Weird that the Third Circuit put this in their decision today when they tossed the Trump case. Even more odd was the fact this unanimous opinion was authored by a Trump appointee.

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Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.
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The Trump Presidential Campaign asserts that Pennsylvania’s 2020 election was unfair. But as lawyer Rudolph Giuliani stressed, the Campaign “doesn’t plead fraud. ... [T]his is not a fraud case.” Mot. to Dismiss Hr’g Tr. 118:19–20, 137:18. Instead, it objects that Pennsylvania’s Secretary of State and some counties restricted poll watchers and let voters fix technical defects in their mail-in ballots. It offers nothing more.
https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-cont...0/11/Trump.pdf
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Old 11-27-2020, 12:54 PM
 
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Well, I live in a majority-black city so I can speak a bit on black turnout: Obama got 152K votes in the city of Cleveland in 2012. Biden got 112K votes. If you look at the change in turnout by precinct in the city from last election, the biggest increases are all in majority-white precincts (Ohio City and West Park neighborhoods primarily) and the biggest decreases are all either college areas or public housing projects, the latter of which tends to be virtually all black in Cleveland. In addition, suburbs with large black populations here, such as Maple Heights, Bedford (Halle Berry's hometown), and Garfield Heights, saw fewer votes for Biden than for Obama. Also, exit polls nationally showed Trump increasing his percentage with black voters. In the city of Cleveland, Republican votes for President increased 43%, or about 8K votes, from 2012 to 2020.

So no, this surge of black turnout was not present in Cleveland, one of America's major black centers. In fact, quite the opposite. If other places were different, I'd be curious as to why.
Exactly. And it's because the rigged fraudulent election was targeted by dem cheaters in only five key cities. They tried perfecting their attack so that it wouldn't look like a nationwide sham and escalated votes for Biden* in those areas alone, to ensure a win. Closing down counting in the middle of the night for fake water leaks, etc., was timeout so they could calculate what needed to be done for a Biden* win.
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Old 11-27-2020, 12:58 PM
 
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Exactly. And it's because the rigged fraudulent election was targeted by dem cheaters in only five key cities. They tried perfecting their attack so that it wouldn't look like a nationwide sham and escalated votes for Biden* in those areas alone, to ensure a win. Closing down counting in the middle of the night for fake water leaks, etc., was timeout so they could calculate what needed to be done for a Biden* win.
Your standard of evidence is far lower than any court in the land’s. You guys are strangely silent about the Third Circuit ruling today. No talking points from OANN or Newsmax yet?

You could skip the middleman and just read the actual text and form you own opinion.
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