Why do you think there has not been another terrorist attack in the US? (Israeli, accuse)

[dixiegirl7]

Originally Posted by saganista

You would need to see things AS they are, no one has suggested any conspiracy, and you can't very well understand politics if you have such a meager understanding of the history that politics has reacted to. You don't necessarily need a degree in anything to read a newspaper.

Obviously, you don't have a degree in anything if that is all you've got.

[saganista]

Originally Posted by dixiegirl7

Obviously, you don't have a degree in anything if that is all you've got.

Why don't you try supporting your theories that...

There were terrorist attacks all through the Clinton years on US entities and virtually nothing was done about them. They decided to hit on US soil during the wrong administration. God forbid if Al Gore had been president, no telling how many more times we would have been hit by now.

This bit of blather is what got you into hot water to begin with. Let's see what you've got to back all that up.

[dixiegirl7]

Originally Posted by saganista

Why don't you try supporting your theories that...

There were terrorist attacks all through the Clinton years on US entities and virtually nothing was done about them. They decided to hit on US soil during the wrong administration. God forbid if Al Gore had been president, no telling how many more times we would have been hit by now.

This bit of blather is what got you into hot water to begin with. Let's see what you've got to back all that up.

Were you not yet born or did you sleep through the Clinton administration? Since you say you can read:


The Joint Inquiry Staff has reviewed five past terrorist attacks or attempts against the United States as part of its inquiry into September 11: the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center (WTC I); the 1996 attack on the U.S. military barracks Khobar Towers, in Saudi Arabia; the 1998 attacks on U.S. Embassies in Africa; the 1999 "Millennium" plot; and the 2000 attack on U.S.S. Cole.


The Intelligence Community's Response to Past Terrorist Attacks Against the U.S. from February 1993 to September 2001: Statement of Eleanor Hill: October 8, 2002

[oz in SC]

Look what you've done now!!!

You made Saganista stop posting.

[dixiegirl7]

Originally Posted by oz in SC

Look what you've done now!!!

You made Saganista stop posting.

Darn it and I was just warming up...lol.

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by dixiegirl7

Were you not yet born or did you sleep through the Clinton administration? Since you say you can read:


The Joint Inquiry Staff has reviewed five past terrorist attacks or attempts against the United States as part of its inquiry into September 11: the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center (WTC I); the 1996 attack on the U.S. military barracks Khobar Towers, in Saudi Arabia; the 1998 attacks on U.S. Embassies in Africa; the 1999 "Millennium" plot; and the 2000 attack on U.S.S. Cole.


The Intelligence Community's Response to Past Terrorist Attacks Against the U.S. from February 1993 to September 2001: Statement of Eleanor Hill: October 8, 2002

Seems to me that only ONE of those was truly in America--the first WTC bombing. The rest happened in FOREIGN countries. Now, the Cole...tell us how "terrorists" get a hold of a plane that shot the missile at the Cole?

[saganista]

Originally Posted by dixiegirl7

Were you not yet born or did you sleep through the Clinton administration? Since you say you can read:
The Joint Inquiry Staff has reviewed five past terrorist attacks or attempts against the United States as part of its inquiry into September 11: the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center (WTC I); the 1996 attack on the U.S. military barracks Khobar Towers, in Saudi Arabia; the 1998 attacks on U.S. Embassies in Africa; the 1999 "Millennium" plot; and the 2000 attack on U.S.S. Cole.

Your problems are these: 1) you think these events were out of synch with what preceded and what followed, 2) you think virtually nothing was done about any of these, 3) you think Bush has dealt effectively with terrorists, and 4) you imply the election of Gore in 2000 would have resulted in more such events.

Events of the 1980's: PanAm terminal bombing at JFK, US embassy bombing in Bierut, PanAm 830 bombing, Marine barracks bombing in Beirut, Federal Plaza bombing in Manhattan, bombing of the US Senate in DC, TWA 847 hijacking, Zona Rosa attacks in El Salvador, Achille Lauro hijacking, Alex Odeh bombing in California, TWA 840 bombing, Berlin disco bombing, Air Force bus bombing in Greece, PanAm 103 bombing.

Events of the 2000's: 9/11 attacks, anthrax attacks in NY and DC, King Fahd Mosque plot, AA 63 shoe-bomber plot, US embassy bombing in Lima, LAX El Al attacks, McDonald's bombing in Moscow, Riyadh compound bombings, US convoy bombing in Gaza, Khobar massacre, Herald Square bomb plot in NYC, US consulate bombing in Jeddah, church bombing in Rawalpindi, Heath Row airliner plot, US embassy attack in Damascus, US embassy attack in Athens, NATO summit bombings in Ankara, Franfurt/Ramstein plot, US convoy bombing in Beirut.

The above do not include significant terrorist operations carried out against other or generalized western interests such as those in Bali, Casablanca, Istanbul, Madrid, Dubai, London, Amman, or Algiers. Neither are any attacks occurring in Iraq noted, such as the UN headquarters bombing or the attempted assassination of Ban Ki-Moon.

Now, suppose you research what was virtually done with respect to the terrorists attacks above, then compare and contrast those results with the virtually-nothing that was done about the attacks you referenced earlier. To be sure we have our virtually-nothing baseline set and agreed upon, here are some brief details...

WTC BOMBING: Four perpetrators caught, tried, convicted, sentenced to life in prison.
KHOBAR TOWERS: Thirteen Saudis and one Lebanese indicted. FBI says "some" are in custody.
AFRICAN EMBASSIES: Locals caught and prosecuted there. Four serving life in prison here. Three in prison in the UK. Two held in Guantanamo. [Republicans call retaliatory missile strikes in Afghanistan/Sudan "wag the dog" distraction from nation's most important issue -- Monica Lewinsky.]
MILLENIUM PLOT: Perpetrator caught, debriefed, tried, convicted, sentenced to 22 years in prison.
USS COLE BOMBING: Six locals caught and prosecuted there. Two sentenced to death. US final report completed in February 2001. New administration chooses to take no action.

So that would be the yardstick. See how those before's and after's stack up against virtually-nothing and get back to us.

As for Gore, your statement is purely partisan speculation. If you read your own report, you know that the Clinton administration had progessively expanded focus on and resources devoted to counter-terrorism efforts. Via legal means, of course. Gore was a part of the administration that warned its successors that terrorism would be the number one problem on their watch. That warning went unheeded. Given that record, and the less than noteworthy record that Bush has laid down since, it is quite hard to see anything at all beyond bias in your statement.

[saganista]

Originally Posted by oz in SC

Look what you've done now!!! You made Saganista stop posting.

Well, either that or being a Nationals season ticket holder. Though sitting here and batting a few more right-wing deep-thinkers about could not have been much more of a waste of time than the game turned out to be...

[saganista]

Originally Posted by dixiegirl7

Darn it and I was just warming up...lol.

Define "warm". Not sure there's a setting for it on most thermometers. The intellectual-energy ROI from reading NewsMax is just about nil...

[saganista]

Originally Posted by TKramar

Seems to me that only ONE of those was truly in America--the first WTC bombing. The rest happened in FOREIGN countries. Now, the Cole...tell us how "terrorists" get a hold of a plane that shot the missile at the Cole?

True, and jurisdictional problems are frequently going to be an issue with regard to events that occur abroad. The USS Cole investigation was a good example, as US staff had a very hard time getting set up in-country, and then in getting access to any parties of interest via the Yemeni government. There were some cultural faux pas that didn't help, but the bulk of it was sovereignty related issues, with the Yemenis not being willing to just roll over and take a back seat to the US on matters pertaining to their own national territory and jurisdiction...