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Old 12-05-2020, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by ReineDeCoeur View Post
Not surprising. It’s high time that the Republicans let go of the false claims. The people have spoken. Let the country move forward.



Isn’t Antifa anti-government? How would they be affiliated with any party?

BLM is not a Democratic creation either although the organization seems to have created ties with them later.

Neither of them were “unleashed” by anyone.
BLM donations go to 'ACTBLUE' a democrat organization. They are definitely together .
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Old 12-05-2020, 07:49 AM
 
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You need to do a little more research. You believe the tape.

People who were there explained what you saw. It was not what you think you saw.

Believing something does not make it true. Best not to believe everything you think.

It is not unusual for some precincts to come in late. My county has 5000+ precincts. Some are 30 miles from the counting. By the time the polls close at 7ish, the clerks have to secure the machines and close up the place. Some counties do not allow the clerks to leave the premises until closing. Some get something to eat because by now it's after 10 and they may not have had any lunch. Then they drive to the county courthouse turn in the machines and double check everything with the county people, it is not unreasonable to have some come in at 3-4 in the morning.


Been there, done that. Walk a mile in their shoes before you call them crooks and cars.

BTW, while doing all that, there are always, ALWAYS, representatives of both parties with the machines. Even while they drive through the burger doodle.
So people “explained” what I saw? Why should I believe THEM? They are trying to deny what they did.

Are YOU believing what the Republican observers say happened? Seems like you demand that Republicans ignore what the people working the count experienced, and demand that Republicans believe the people denying it happened.

You can’t even understand that, can you? Besides, you don’t have to believe anything a person says. You just look at the facts.

1) They closed the counting and sent everyone home at 10 pm under the guise of a water pipe leak (which was a minor toilet issue and repaired hours earlier), and yet a few people remained taking ballots from under the table, and counting.NO LEGITIMATE EXPLANATION.

2) Throughout the country in swing states, there were huge ballot drops delivered at 3:00 a.m and 4:00 a.m. that went for Biden 99.5%. IMPOSSIBLE.
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Old 12-05-2020, 07:50 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I have respect for Group 1 and they are the same people that I even share not all, but some, common policy ground with, or at least respect where they're coming from.

Groups 2 and 3 are examples of what is wrong with much of politics and not doing the country any good. Group 2 is simply corrupt. If Group 3 is about shaking things up and going against the grain, they are shaking the absolute wrong things up and making the swamp murkier, not draining it.
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Old 12-05-2020, 07:50 AM
 
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BLM donations go to 'ACTBLUE' a democrat organization. They are definitely together .
True, BLM is actually an anti-white and antisemitic hate group raising funds for Democrats.
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Old 12-05-2020, 07:52 AM
 
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Oh come on, you are usually more informed than this.

1. Rejoining the Paris accords doesn’t depend on the senate elections. That’s purely an executive decision Biden can make on his own since it is not a formal treaty requiring senate ratification.

2. We already know stuff like court packing and the end of the filibuster is DOA regardless since Manchin has said he will vote no.
How do we know that a RINO won’t cave to the Democrats, making Manchin the tie vote and throwing the decision to the radical Harris who is aligned with Tlaib, Omar, and AOC?
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Old 12-05-2020, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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How do we know that a RINO won’t cave to the Democrats, making Manchin the tie vote and throwing the decision to the radical Harris who is aligned with Tlaib, Omar, and AOC?
Which Republican in the senate do you think is inclined to vote for the removal of the filibuster or court packing of additional liberal judges?

Your suggestion is nonsensical.
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Old 12-05-2020, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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You’re saying that GA didn’t close down the count at 10 pm under the guise of a water pipe burst? And that four Democrats remained, got the hidden ballots from under the table, and fed them through the machines with no Republicans observing? And that by the next morning, Trump’s victory has evaporated? GIVE ME ONE GOOD REASON FOR THE DEMS TO LIE ABOUT THE WATER LEAK IN ORDER TO STOP COUNTING at 10 pm!

And that there weren’t 138,000 votes dumped at 4 am in which all went for Biden? (Forgot which swing state this was done, in order to reverse Trump’s lead in the wee hours of the night.) IMPOSSIBLE.

Democrats despise America so much, and are so intent on destroying it, that they cheated their way to a win in order to install a radical leftist (Harris) as president within six months.
They hate facts... especially when it is caught on tape. This same fraud happened in PA, MI, AZ and WI
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Old 12-05-2020, 08:18 AM
 
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They hate facts... especially when it is caught on tape. This same fraud happened in PA, MI, AZ and WI
Do you seriously believe that if the democrats had the know how and the talent to rig the election they would have lost seats in the house and let McConnell be re elected?

Most Democrats know having the majority in the house and senate would be more productive than getting rid of POTUS Trump.

The republicans in my state are fighting each other. That's not good.
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Old 12-05-2020, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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I think you left out group #4 - Republicans that think the old adage where there’s smoke, there’s fire is a probably a good way to describe the situation but recognize there is little that can be done over the presidential election and Joe Biden will be the president. Their main concern is that it’s going to happen again in the Georgia senate races. They are already hearing, directly from Mr. Biden, Ms. Pelosi, and Mr. Schumer, what will happen if that comes to fruition - 11 million illegal immigrants granted citizenship, the return of the transgender bathroom debacles, immediate $50K student loan forgiveness, re-shackled by the Paris Climate Accord, court packing, end of the filibuster, hints of potential draconian lockdowns, and a return of an “America Last” policy. The words Chuck Schumer used were, 'Now we take Georgia, then we change America'. It has nothing to do with power and everything to do the destruction of every fundamental value we have ever held.

We are terrified and wish to God someone would muzzle Lin Wood and Sidney Powell.
I guess you missed the SCOTUS ruling that Trump's decision to wind down DACA was legally flawed, and that a federal judge in New York ordered the Trump administration to begin accepting new applications. Nobody is granting citizenship to 11 million illegal immigrants. The DACA program has rules. One of them is that you must have been here since 2007 and been under the age of 16. It must also be renewed every two years.

Yes Biden does plan of giving access to a pathway to citizenship to illegal immigrants. What remains to be seen is how he plans on doing that. A pathway is not granting citizenship, it is simply a pathway. Will it include penalties for entering illegally? We don't know. We haven't seen the bill yet. It will be DOA if McConnell has his say, which I think he will. Did Trump make these people go away? No he didn't. How many has he deported returned again anyway? This is an internal problem that neither side has successfully addressed.

As transgender bathrooms go? Stop with the hate. These people exist and we have a good friend going through transition now. I would share a bathroom with her any day. We do have stalls with locks on them you know. Chances are you have shared one with a transgender person and not even known it. Why is this such a big deal and how is it hurting you personally?

There's one thing that is being missed with Trump and that's the money issue. Hannity needs Trump for ratings, so yes, he is willing to prostitute himself to keep his show. Trump's latest PAC grift has raised over 200 million dollars. Read the fine print as to where that money is and can go. Trump can use it as an income, but he has to claim it as such. He can also use it to fund other Republican candidates which gives big money yet again control over politicians. Isn't that what Trump voters voted against when they voted for Trump? Did we get an even bigger swamp?

Follow the money, it's what motivates all actions in government. If Trump is successfully raising money for himself and the RNC, who gets roughly 40% of the PAC money, and he does it through lies and fear mongering, who's going to stop him? As long as the rubes believe the lies and the money keeps pouring in, why would any Republican speak up if they can have their hand in that pot as well through the RNC?

Business as usual? You bet.
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Old 12-05-2020, 09:15 AM
 
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I guess you missed the SCOTUS ruling that Trump's decision to wind down DACA was legally flawed, and that a federal judge in New York ordered the Trump administration to begin accepting new applications. Nobody is granting citizenship to 11 million illegal immigrants. The DACA program has rules. One of them is that you must have been here since 2007 and been under the age of 16. It must also be renewed every two years.

Yes Biden does plan of giving access to a pathway to citizenship to illegal immigrants. What remains to be seen is how he plans on doing that. A pathway is not granting citizenship, it is simply a pathway. Will it include penalties for entering illegally? We don't know. We haven't seen the bill yet. It will be DOA if McConnell has his say, which I think he will. Did Trump make these people go away? No he didn't. How many has he deported returned again anyway? This is an internal problem that neither side has successfully addressed.

As transgender bathrooms go? Stop with the hate. These people exist and we have a good friend going through transition now. I would share a bathroom with her any day. We do have stalls with locks on them you know. Chances are you have shared one with a transgender person and not even known it. Why is this such a big deal and how is it hurting you personally?

There's one thing that is being missed with Trump and that's the money issue. Hannity needs Trump for ratings, so yes, he is willing to prostitute himself to keep his show. Trump's latest PAC grift has raised over 200 million dollars. Read the fine print as to where that money is and can go. Trump can use it as an income, but he has to claim it as such. He can also use it to fund other Republican candidates which gives big money yet again control over politicians. Isn't that what Trump voters voted against when they voted for Trump? Did we get an even bigger swamp?

Follow the money, it's what motivates all actions in government. If Trump is successfully raising money for himself and the RNC, who gets roughly 40% of the PAC money, and he does it through lies and fear mongering, who's going to stop him? As long as the rubes believe the lies and the money keeps pouring in, why would any Republican speak up if they can have their hand in that pot as well through the RNC?

Business as usual? You bet.
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