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Once again, if the government's reaction to the Spanish flu was anything like the today's government's reaction is to the COVID ---- There would be government records of such a reaction. Including the State of the Union address 1919
That is the point. The government's reaction was not like that of today's government because of WWI. The 1918 government deliberately hid what was going on because it impaired the military's ability to fight.
But it isn't the way they've always done it --- not 100 years ago, when the idea to have a small government to manage was still in play.
Fun fact --- Three college shootings took place in the late 60s, where unarmed student protestors were shot. The citizens surveyed 11% said it wasn't the students fault. (the day the 60s died, documentary) Goes to the average frame of mind, within the culture that emerged from the 60s failed revolution. Nixon was in the WH. Hold those reins.
Republicans say one thing; they do another.
"Republicans say one thing; they do another"
"You can KEEP your doctor". You can KEEP you health care insurance", "You WILL SAVE $2,500 a YEAR, I will focus like a laser on jobs", I can cite HUNDREDS more if you want.
Some Dem, usually a politician, do things and NEVER a complaint but, when a repub does the SAME THING, you would the think the sky was falling!
They are NOTORIOUS for, "Do as I SAY, NOT as I DO!"
That is the point. The government's reaction was not like that of today's government because of WWI. The 1918 government deliberately hid what was going on because it impaired the military's ability to fight.
Initially but the second wave after the war was over in 1919, was bigger than the first wave. This is like what we are seeing right now.
The poster I was replying to refuses to understand that the Federal government's official stance was to hide how serious the flu pandemic was, thus no mention of it in the State of the Union address.
The response from health authorities to the flu pandemic was at the city level for the most part.
Initially but the second wave after the war was over in 1919, was bigger than the first wave. This is like what we are seeing right now.
Actually, the Second Wave hit in September 1918, with the worse month in October. There was a third wave in 1919, but the influenza was by then mutating down.
Here's some cheery news about the new strain based in the UK: at least 25 flights from London are arriving in New York city today:
From my reading, this new strain of the coronovirus is not more lethal, but transmits easier. Since our hospitals are reaching capacity, this is not good.
Initially but the second wave after the war was over in 1919, was bigger than the first wave. This is like what we are seeing right now.
No, the second wave isn't worse. Where are you seeing that?! Are you confusing parts of the mid-West having their first wave - later than the first states - with a second wave? Because of the time over which the virus moved across the US, you can't use the entire country and say "second wave".
Here in NJ we had an average of 250-300 deaths per day at the peak in April. Now our average in the "second wave" is 50-65.
In NY, they hit a high of 1,300. Now they are at 110.
During that same time frame, North Dakota went from 2 to 20. Their first wave didn't happen until September. Florida hit their first wave mid-July, and was at 185. Their second wave is 100 deaths per day, average. They're not doing so well with their second wave, but it's still not as bad as the first.
Once again, if the government's reaction to the Spanish flu was anything like the today's government's reaction is to the COVID ----
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Originally Posted by suzy_q2010
That is the point. The government's reaction was not like that of today's government because of WWI. The 1918 government deliberately hid what was going on because it impaired the military's ability to fight.
But it isn't the way they've always done it --- not 100 years ago, when the idea to have a small government to manage was still in play.
Fun fact --- Three college shootings took place in the late 60s, where unarmed student protestors were shot. The citizens surveyed 11% said it wasn't the students fault. (the day the 60s died, documentary) Goes to the average frame of mind, within the culture that emerged from the 60s failed revolution. Nixon was in the WH. Hold those reins.
Republicans say one thing; they do another.
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough
"Republicans say one thing; they do another"
"You can KEEP your doctor". You can KEEP you health care insurance", "You WILL SAVE $2,500 a YEAR, I will focus like a laser on jobs", I can cite HUNDREDS more if you want.
Some Dem, usually a politician, do things and NEVER a complaint but, when a repub does the SAME THING, you would the think the sky was falling!
They are NOTORIOUS for, "Do as I SAY, NOT as I DO!"
I should have said, 'elected, government officials', say one thing and do another --- my bad.
The poster I was replying to refuses to understand that the Federal government's official stance was to hide how serious the flu pandemic was, thus no mention of it in the State of the Union address.
The response from health authorities to the flu pandemic was at the city level for the most part.
Nor mentioning it in the Congressional records on steps taken to improve the situation or, funding for stressed States. Nope not hide it --- React to it, with a light vs heavy handed asinine block to their livelihoods, saying this will save lives.
Blind people will never see that which is right in front of their faces.
PS: They wore a mask 100 years ago and went to work --- not this time, wear a mask and no work for you unless you are essential to the u.s. collection of taxes.
States didn't need, nor did they request additional funds? Because of the War? Again, how bizarre.
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Originally Posted by Ellis Bell
Nor mentioning it in the Congressional records on steps taken to improve the situation or, funding for stressed States. Nope not hide it --- React to it, with a light vs heavy handed asinine block to their livelihoods, saying this will save lives.
Blind people will never see that which is right in front of their faces.
PS: They wore a mask 100 years ago and went to work --- not this time, wear a mask and no work for you unless you are essential to the u.s. collection of taxes.
What is bizarre is your assumption that the response to the 1918 flu epidemic should be exactly the same as the current response to the coronavirus epidemic.
Whether you want to believe it or not, there were shutdowns, there were quarantines, and those were not purely voluntary.
The epidemic was not in official Federal records because officially it did not exist because it was feared official recognition would be detrimental to the war effort. It was not even admitted that Woodrow Wilson had it at the Paris peace conference, and may well be that he was so impaired by the infection that the illness contributed to his less than satisfactory performance there.
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