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Well you have it straight from the SCOTUS there that revolution is not illegal. My guess is that's it's pretty likely that if a state does get serious about secession, that the states will consent to it over the prospect of another civil war.
There has been legal ways to split up Canada had 1995 Quebec independence referendum in splitting up Canada it wasn't the first time never got the majority of votes. I think in the US it would take a constitutional convention to do it legally. During the 19th century civil war the confederate states had a far weaker military without the support of any other country. The North wanted to stop slavery, and the south would have just continued with Slavery if the North allowed them to break away.
Even the war of independence if France hadn't at least appeared to support it we all be speaking with a English accent. The idea that a gorilla war can be fought against a well supported military without any 3rd party support is a fantasy in the minds of "Patriot's". The best example of gorilla warfare is Vietnam the north was well supported by the Soviets, and China. Prior to that Vietnam had been easily controlled by France.
There has been legal ways to split up Canada had 1995 Quebec independence referendum in splitting up Canada it wasn't the first time never got the majority of votes. I think in the US it would take a constitutional convention to do it legally. During the 19th century civil war the confederate states had a far weaker military without the support of any other country. The North wanted to stop slavery, and the south would have just continued with Slavery if the North allowed them to break away.
Even the war of independence if France hadn't at least appeared to support it we all be speaking with a English accent. The idea that a gorilla war can be fought against a well supported military without any 3rd party support is a fantasy in the minds of "Patriot's". The best example of gorilla warfare is Vietnam the north was well supported by the Soviets, and China. Prior to that Vietnam had been easily controlled by France.
There is no real division of blue/red states even if the Electoral College makes it appear so. The division is between urban an rural areas. Dallas and Houston are not going to favor a Texas secession. New Orleans is not going to favor a Louisiana secession. Atlanta is not going to favor a Georgia secession, et cetera. Nor will any of the major business interests in any of those states be in favor of that kind of upheaval. There's not going to be any kind of clean secession regardless of the constitutionality of the matter.
There has been legal ways to split up Canada had 1995 Quebec independence referendum in splitting up Canada it wasn't the first time never got the majority of votes. I think in the US it would take a constitutional convention to do it legally. During the 19th century civil war the confederate states had a far weaker military without the support of any other country. The North wanted to stop slavery, and the south would have just continued with Slavery if the North allowed them to break away.
Even the war of independence if France hadn't at least appeared to support it we all be speaking with a English accent. The idea that a gorilla war can be fought against a well supported military without any 3rd party support is a fantasy in the minds of "Patriot's". The best example of gorilla warfare is Vietnam the north was well supported by the Soviets, and China. Prior to that Vietnam had been easily controlled by France.
Well Yugoslav partisans were highly successful against Nazis, arguably the most successful resistance movement during WW2, to the point that they were able to hold territory. Not sure how much actual support they got early on from the Soviet Union, considering the timing and other things.
As a Georgia voter, I would like to see him charged for treason for attempting to subvert my democratic right to keep our government for the people, of the people, and by the people.
It is not his right to decide for me.
It is time to stop the Treason of Republican Fascists! They are already 10 steps too far.
Maybe you'd be happier if you moved to a blue state that wants to join canada or start their own country
There is no real division of blue/red states even if the Electoral College makes it appear so. The division is between urban an rural areas. Dallas and Houston are not going to favor a Texas secession. New Orleans is not going to favor a Louisiana secession. Atlanta is not going to favor a Georgia secession, et cetera. Nor will any of the major business interests in any of those states be in favor of that kind of upheaval. There's not going to be any kind of clean secession regardless of the constitutionality of the matter.
Right you are how that is so very TRUE. Even quite deep ruby red states, such as Oklahoma, have quite dramatically deep division between urban and rural counties. For instance, urban Oklahoma City quite easily supported legalizing medical marijuana, while most of rural Oklahoma voted absolutely not, by far!
There has been legal ways to split up Canada had 1995 Quebec independence referendum in splitting up Canada it wasn't the first time never got the majority of votes. I think in the US it would take a constitutional convention to do it legally. During the 19th century civil war the confederate states had a far weaker military without the support of any other country. The North wanted to stop slavery, and the south would have just continued with Slavery if the North allowed them to break away.
Even the war of independence if France hadn't at least appeared to support it we all be speaking with a English accent. The idea that a gorilla war can be fought against a well supported military without any 3rd party support is a fantasy in the minds of "Patriot's". The best example of gorilla warfare is Vietnam the north was well supported by the Soviets, and China. Prior to that Vietnam had been easily controlled by France.
We could even split the counry in such a way it would basically not change people's lives nor our military power, economic power, and currency. Redraw state boundaries to split the divided urban and rural areas up. Devolve the federal government to have no legislative powers over the states and to simply manage the military, dollar, and coordinate interstate infrastructure. States decide who is a citizen and may vote but everyone may still freely travel about.
I don't doubt at all that if a civil war of any form takes off here that we'll have foreign involvement, at least as far as supplying the rebels, even if covertly. Of course countries like Russia and China would have their own agenda behind doing so, and not a good one, but it would happen. Mao took China starting in rural areas (yes he did get some outside help but he recognized that a country can be taken starting rural). Castro had the support of urban residents in Cuba but started out rural.
I would definitely advocate for splitting it up California in to 10 or 12 new states, each with two democratic senators
About a third of Cali is conservative.....the new conservative states would have conservative Senators. Depending on how they split it, the right could actually gain Senators. And lose Representatives and Electors.
About a third of Cali is conservative.....the new conservative states would have conservative Senators. Depending on how they split it, the right could actually gain Senators. And lose Representatives and Electors.
Indeed, but the people who would do the splitting have learned everything they need to know about gerrymandering from Republicans
Texas GOP chairman calls for Red States to secede ...
Sore losers. I recall some calls for secession in 2012 too. What a bunch of unmitigated BS.
So they support a traitor in 2016 and call for secession once again in 2020.
These people are not good citizens.
The subject comes up every couple of years when some fool proposes it. There are 'let the bastards freeze in the dark' bumper stickers when the rest of the country gets pissed off by a spill or some such. It'll never happen.
Are those who stay gonna buy all the vacant houses? And Texas allows water districts. Paying off the bonds would be a problem. And then there's the sport stadium and school bonds.
Somebody hasn't thought this through.
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