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That first paragraph is a big part of what should be mentioned.
It used to be "you're destroying history". Now some of the pro-Lost Cause types are coming out and saying "you're destroying white history". Think about how desperate, or morally corrupt someone has to be. Someone who would try to say that is basically saying "preserving slavery and bigotry is part of white culture". To that, I would have to ask some people if that is what they want.
Taking down Confederate statues is not destroying history. It's recognizing that Confederate generals are not worthy of accolades and honor. Those statues were put up based on a dishonest ideology perpetuated by the UDC.
nice of you to think that. I would never proudly display the flag of a bunch of racist, treasonous traitors. I might use it if i ran out of toilet paper though.
That first paragraph is a big part of what should be mentioned.
It used to be "you're destroying history". Now some of the pro-Lost Cause types are coming out and saying "you're destroying white history". Think about how desperate, or morally corrupt someone has to be. Someone who would try to say that is basically saying "preserving slavery and bigotry is part of white culture". To that, I would have to ask some people if that is what they want.
Taking down Confederate statues is not destroying history. It's recognizing that Confederate generals are not worthy of accolades and honor. Those statues were put up based on a dishonest ideology perpetuated by the UDC.
Coming on the heels of a bloody civil war, the US took a reconciliatory tone and that meant that showing some respect to BOTH sides was pretty critical to getting past such a terrible time.
I think that when we look back now with zero consideration of the brutal fighting and post-war environment is where we miss why it was even done in the first place.
I fear that the more you cover up history, the less informed future generations will be but I see why some people don't like them. (My relative died fighting against the south and is buried in TN, so I'm no fan of the confederates.)
Guess in your mind then the Indians were traitors too. They both fought the US Army and lost.
Native Americans never declared allegiance to the Union.
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The Colonies when they broke from England were not traitors because they won??
They were very much seditious traitors, as far as the British Crown was concerned. And yes, winning is generally how you go from usurpurous gallows fodder to being a nation's father. Exceptions to that rule are few and even they tend to be upheld at barrel's end.
I fear that the more you cover up history, the less informed future generations will be but I see why some people don't like them. (My relative died fighting against the south and is buried in TN, so I'm no fan of the confederates.)
Perhaps a monument that commemorates the suffering and inhumanity of slavery and slave trade?
The State can't own property. Only individuals can.
Wrong.
The State owns its Capital building, all the various state offices it does not rent throughout the state, and other buildings, grounds, parks, and public spaces.
They were all obtained with the consent of the individual voter's representatives in state government.
Read the property titles to any state property. Your state is as much an entity as you are as an individual when it comes to property ownership.
This thread's headline is misleading, though. Selling a confederate flag is still legal in the state of New York. They just can't be sold in or on state property.
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