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Old 12-28-2020, 04:52 PM
 
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So? The coronavirus vaccines are showing excellent effectiveness.
We shall see what happens after a year. the final test will always be after the general public has gotten the vaccine for some time.
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Old 12-28-2020, 07:30 PM
 
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There WAS a eugenics movement that did sterlize women in the early 20th century. that can not be disputed. I don't like snopes it has a left leaning bias. Bill gates makes predictions on when we can release restrictions how does he know when he does not even have a medical degree?

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2020/12...nics-movement/
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Old 12-28-2020, 07:46 PM
 
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Exposing the Genomic Sequence of the sarscov2

https://hive.blog/worldnews/@frances...ce-of-sarscov2

Carrie Madej, D.O.
@DrMadej
I am an Osteopathic Internal Medicine Physician- I blend traditional & holistic medicine for optimal health.

"If the synthetic code from these vx get incorporated into your genome, by law part or all of you can be owned by the patent owners . And yes, these codes CAN get into the genome by reverse transcriptase enzymes"

opinions ?
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Old 12-28-2020, 07:54 PM
 
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wow, scary stuff there. ya maybe I will pass on that vaccine too. they said in the trials people died. I did not read the whole thing yet but half of it.

If you wanted to kill a lot of people with a vaccine it should not kill people right away. let's say make them get cancer 5 to 10 years later. the vaccine companies would then deny any causation from the vaccine.

I heard Bill Gates's father was a eugenicist.
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Old 12-28-2020, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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A very wordy document that goes to agonizing lengths to tie coronavirus vaccines to eugenics.

The author "is currently an investigative reporter for Children’s Health Defense."

Children's Health Defense is Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.'s anti-vaccine organization.


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Exposing the Genomic Sequence of the sarscov2

https://hive.blog/worldnews/@frances...ce-of-sarscov2

Carrie Madej, D.O.
@DrMadej
I am an Osteopathic Internal Medicine Physician- I blend traditional & holistic medicine for optimal health.

"If the synthetic code from these vx get incorporated into your genome, by law part or all of you can be owned by the patent owners . And yes, these codes CAN get into the genome by reverse transcriptase enzymes"

opinions ?
Madej does not know what she is talking about. "the synthetic code from these vx" cannot "get incorporated into your genome".

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/rna...lter-your-dna/

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wow, scary stuff there. ya maybe I will pass on that vaccine too. they said in the trials people died. I did not read the whole thing yet but half of it.

If you wanted to kill a lot of people with a vaccine it should not kill people right away. let's say make them get cancer 5 to 10 years later. the vaccine companies would then deny any causation from the vaccine.

I heard Bill Gates's father was a eugenicist.
None of the deaths in the trials were due to the vaccines. Most were in the placebo groups. The couple that were not were due to causes that were not more frequent in the trial than in the general population.

Who wants to "kill a lot of people"? If "you" wanted to do that there are ways that are much more efficient than trying to use a vaccine to do it at some indeterminant time in the future. You do understand that cancers (cancer is not a single disease, it is many) can be treated and often cured, do you not?

The anti-vaxers have desperately tried to turn Gates' interest into reducing population growth into espousing eugenics. Reducing population growth is not eugenics.

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Old 12-28-2020, 08:04 PM
 
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https://jonsnewplace.wordpress.com/2...l-of-eugenics/
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Old 12-28-2020, 08:06 PM
 
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Exposing the Genomic Sequence of the sarscov2

https://hive.blog/worldnews/@frances...ce-of-sarscov2

Carrie Madej, D.O.
@DrMadej
I am an Osteopathic Internal Medicine Physician- I blend traditional & holistic medicine for optimal health.

"If the synthetic code from these vx get incorporated into your genome, by law part or all of you can be owned by the patent owners . And yes, these codes CAN get into the genome by reverse transcriptase enzymes"

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If true its worse than I thought. would the courts uphold the patent. any somewhat decent person would know by now that we got rid of slavery. owning people would give them total control.

They would have to be evil.
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Old 12-28-2020, 08:25 PM
 
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If true its worse than I thought. would the courts uphold the patent. any somewhat decent person would know by now that we got rid of slavery. owning people would give them total control.

They would have to be evil.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/b...-covid-strains

" Dr. Gounder added an off-hand line about the need for using "genomic surveillance" to track mutations like the B.1.1.7 mutated "variant" that has been making headlines for the past week or so.
"We're also going to see an increase in genomic surveillance which is where you track the changes in...virus genetic materials...we can do that...we have the technology...we just chose not to spend the money on public health surveillance..."
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Old 12-28-2020, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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If true its worse than I thought. would the courts uphold the patent. any somewhat decent person would know by now that we got rid of slavery. owning people would give them total control.

They would have to be evil.
There will be no patent because there will be nothing to patent. Madej is a certifiable wacko. What she is proposing is biologically impossible.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/b...-covid-strains

" Dr. Gounder added an off-hand line about the need for using "genomic surveillance" to track mutations like the B.1.1.7 mutated "variant" that has been making headlines for the past week or so.
"We're also going to see an increase in genomic surveillance which is where you track the changes in...virus genetic materials...we can do that...we have the technology...we just chose not to spend the money on public health surveillance..."
The "genomic surveillance" refers to observation for changes in the genome of the virus itself. The US has not been tracking viral mutations to the same degree as some other countries, including the UK. It does not refer to "genomic surveillance" of humans.
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Old 12-28-2020, 08:37 PM
 
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A very wordy document that goes to agonizing lengths to tie coronavirus vaccines to eugenics.

The author "is currently an investigative reporter for Children’s Health Defense."

Children's Health Defense is Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.'s anti-vaccine organization.




Madej does not know what she is talking about. "the synthetic code from these vx" cannot "get incorporated into your genome".

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/rna...lter-your-dna/



None of the deaths in the trials were due to the vaccines. Most were in the placebo groups. The couple that were not were due to causes that were not more frequent in the trial than in the general population.

Who wants to "kill a lot of people"? If "you" wanted to do that there are ways that are much more efficient than trying to use a vaccine to do it at some indeterminant time in the future. You do understand that cancers (cancer is not a single disease, it is many) can be treated and often cured, do you not?

The anti-vaxers have desperately tried to turn Gates' interest into reducing population growth into espousing eugenics. Reducing population growth is not eugenics.
ya they would not use cancer as a way to kill people. I don't know if you read any history but there have been many governments that have killed a lot of people. they would use a vaccine as a bioweapons to infect them with a virus that only 2 percent of the population were immune to. cancer was a bad example lots of cancers now are way more treatable than years ago.

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