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Old 01-09-2021, 05:05 PM
 
Location: southern california
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European friends move here and sometimes are a bit critical of our system
But the system back home is not perfect is it ?

Possibly a factor in your moving here?
We are not perfect here Either but we try

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Old 01-10-2021, 10:04 AM
 
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Good point but that is what I do not understand, why they voted for him for a second time. I do understand why they voted for him in 2016. It is common in business to mimic things that are done by successful people. I for one always admired and still do admire people that have done better than me.
Good points.

My response is what was the Biden/Harris appeal?

I mean the real appeal other than they're not Trump/Pence?

Biden has been a DC insider for almost 50 years. What were his accomplishments?

Why did he choose a running mate who got what, 3% of the primary votes? WTH kind of strategy was that? (I like many Rs suspect race and gender alone not ability or accomplishments).

After seeing her giggling girlishly through the 60 Minutes interview I just shook my head and said to my wife "WTF did we just watch?", LOL.
 
Old 01-10-2021, 10:07 AM
 
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Same reason as you voted for the Democraps after watching BLM and Antifa propagating racism and violence for years.
Those who resort to insults to prove their point simply re-enforces the opposition. Like a child that loses or does not get their own way.

Try, even though it may be difficult to be civil.
 
Old 01-10-2021, 10:09 AM
 
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Good points.

My response is what was the Biden/Harris appeal?

I mean the real appeal other than they're not Trump/Pence?
Plain old normalcy and stability. We are all fed up of Trump's twitter rants, hatred and white supremist support. Simple really.
 
Old 01-10-2021, 10:09 AM
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Those who resort to insults to prove their point simply re-enforces the opposition. Like a child that loses or does not get their own way.

Try, even though it may be difficult to be civil.
Must be difficult. You just failed miserably. Look in the mirror.
 
Old 01-10-2021, 10:11 AM
 
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He also said Mexico would pay for it.
Ye he did (which I thought was brash NYC BS). He did, however, start building a wall. I'll settle for that. I want more of whatever it takes to secure our borders like other first world nations do.

Will the new administration continue building, tear it down or what? They really never said.

Even Obama talked tough about illegal immigration and delivered on deportations and even instituted separating families (unless you're a CNN/MSNBC viewer then Trump did that. I think they still believe that).
 
Old 01-10-2021, 10:15 AM
 
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In many many cases, Republican voter =/= Trumper. Many Republican are loyal to the party. Trumpers are loyal only to Dear Leader. It’s nothing but a cult of personality.
The same could be said about Obama or Sanders. So be it. There are too Americans today who look to politicians to manage their lives or make them prosper by promising to do so at the expense of others.

I've seen it first hand.
 
Old 01-10-2021, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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I don't understand it either, but it sure is a strong pull..I 'had' a good buddy of 40 years tell me if I didn't vote for Trump, he would never speak to me again..whaaat?..he hasn't spoken to me since..
the people for Trump mirror the people for Bernie in many ways high levels of passion for what they believe in... The swamp candidates don't seem to generate those same feelings
 
Old 01-10-2021, 10:16 AM
 
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Most voted for him a second time because there was an R next to his name. And many who did so were thrilled that another name will have that R in 2024.
Is that what all of you Trump supporting associates told you?

You think that's unique to one set of voters?
 
Old 01-10-2021, 10:19 AM
 
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Please explain what would BLM and white wokes burning down buildings solve?
Well, they did seem to divide the country even more.

There were those that we appalled by what they saw and those that excused it. Even CNN said demonstrations don't have to be peaceful.

What are they saying now about the recent violence in DC?
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