Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
I'm sorry but does anybody see the difference between protesting because black people are being killed unjustly by police officers vs storming the capitol building because your guy didn't get re-elected. I'm not condoning the looting on either side, but I have to say one cause seemed more noble than the other.
Neither cause is justification for violence. Last summer wasn't just protesting it was violence, looting, rioting, burning and killing. Surely you know the difference!
Everyone understands what happened besides what's left of the hardcore MAGA. You can't redeem most of them, you just have to hope common sense and sanity starts prevailing on most of the country
Let's just end this whole "it was only a group", "they didn't take it over so it's not sedition", "they were only there a couple of hours" nonsense....
18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
1) Way more than 2 people.
2) They were chanting "Revolution" which means to overthrow.
3) Even if you want to wish away point 2, they definitely used " force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States" (the certification of the election results and they DID delay it).
4) Thanks to these morons need to be "famous" on social media, we all KNOW for a fact that they "force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof".
Cut and dry. No talk of how long they had to be there aor how successful the attempt had to be.
Round 'em up. Send them away. And as a bonus, once convicted, they lose their voting rights in a lot of their states, so it's a win/win for America.
When you hear bugged conversations from high level organized crime members, they don't outright say go and wack so and so, except for Gotti I guess, but they get convicted all the time.
Why on earth would "leftists" (whatever that even means, lol) pretending to be Trump followers storm the Capitol? Don't say, "To make Trump look bad." He already has been looking REALLY REALLY bad all on his own.
Yes, a bunch of non-right-wing people dressed up to look like Trump's white supremacist and antisemitic groups but who weren't REALLY part of it stood and listened to him talk about walking to the Capitol where the vote was being recorded with a result that they would favor and broke in and wreaked havoc to make a President who is just about out the door look bad.
Reps to you! If this had been prior to the election, damage to Trump's reputation/image might have been a reasonable argument. However, since this was after Trump was already on his way out - that line of thought just doesn't hold any water.
I remember reading this when it was issued and thinking a.) there's no way that the current occupant of the White House came up with this one, let alone researched and composed it as that man is famously disinterested in intellectual pursuits and lacks this level of eloquence in his writing style and b.) why are we proclaiming a day to be recognized by school children for a religious martyr, let alone one who was murdered by order of an English monarch centuries ago?
At the time, I thought that it was more pandering to the religious right who mistakenly believe that they're constantly under attack and that the End Times are nigh.
Agreed, there is no way Donald Trump actually wrote that, but then again, most top-level people, corporate or government, have others write what they sign.
What I see in that is the correlation between Henry II saying "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" and DT saying "We must fight/stop the vote/etc.". Henry never outright TOLD his lackeys and bootlickers to go KILL Becket. He put a suggestion in their heads, and they did it because they thought it would please the king.
Let's just end this whole "it was only a group", "they didn't take it over so it's not sedition", "they were only there a couple of hours" nonsense....
18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
1) Way more than 2 people.
2) They were chanting "Revolution" which means to overthrow.
3) Even if you want to wish away point 2, they definitely used " force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States" (the certification of the election results and they DID delay it).
4) Thanks to these morons need to be "famous" on social media, we all KNOW for a fact that they "force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof".
Cut and dry. No talk of how long they had to be there aor how successful the attempt had to be.
Round 'em up. Send them away. And as a bonus, once convicted, they lose their voting rights in a lot of their states, so it's a win/win for America.
Interesting, some of that verbiage seems like it would apply to those individuals that held up the Kavanaugh hearing. Or the ones that overtook the WI capitol and decided to camp out for a few days. Or the ones that tried to break into, and burn down ,for like a month, the Federal court building in Portland.
I don't remember the media uproar for any of those instances. I wonder if they were rounded up and convicted ?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
