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Old 01-11-2021, 08:08 PM
 
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I agree to a large degree but the video misses the major trigger for the rise of the moral majority
/neo-conservative movement - desegregation. One of the beginning members of the moral majority later said that abortion was not even mentioned in their first meetings. Abortion was brought in later because they needed another argument for the government to stay out of parochial institutions where they endeavored to maintain segregation.

 
Old 01-11-2021, 08:10 PM
 
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Why are you mentioning this? There is no Communist party in America.
 
Old 01-11-2021, 08:23 PM
 
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Organized religion is garbage
 
Old 01-11-2021, 08:27 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Congrats on making a face. That's quite an accomplishment.
 
Old 01-11-2021, 09:04 PM
 
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I dont quite see how religion can be blamed, not that it is blame free and causes much harm, for the current political situation. trump has used the bible trick yes, but i am not sure religion is the reason for those who came out to the capitol with murder in their minds. It is hate.
If you were to check the backgrounds and posts of those involved going to the rally and actually entering the Capitol I think the majority of them would classify themselves as religious, that they feel religion is threatened by “liberals”, that Trump is more religious than Obama or Biden and is “protecting” religion as part of making America great...

The areas of the country that are firmly GOP and Trump supporters are more likely to self-identify themselves as supporting religion and a more conservative theology than areas that voted for Biden
Or HRC...

Trump hasn’t just used the Bible trick
Pence was chosen for his “brand” of conservative religious politician specifically to bring the evangelicals on board
The conservative religious right has ignores Trump’s racism—because many of them are racists themselves (check their church groups)...
The religious right has strong elements in our military too
And that aspect of its infiltration and rise to power is something rarely discussed and brought to light
 
Old 01-11-2021, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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Why are you mentioning this? There is no Communist party in America.
What do you think the Democrat party has become?
 
Old 01-11-2021, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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This is how I see it. I believe in Jesus Christ. My faith is important to me. It's one of the reasons I haven't gone completely off the rails.
If you need religion to stay off the rails, you won’t last very long with your white liberal counterparts who are quickly abandoning religion.

You can’t claim you hate or oppose white conservatives but love their religion. Some of the most religious demographics in America are southern whites and white nationalists.

Part of the reason we blacks are regressing is we don’t like to think for ourselves. We always need Demcorats or religion to do the thinking for us.
 
Old 01-11-2021, 11:15 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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How would the "secular atheistic left" remove religion and faith from the world? Do other countries allow the US to make religious decisions for them?
What he really means is that the Democrats oppose state-imposed Christianity and support allowing people of all faiths and no faiths to exist in our society. To a conservative Christian, there's no separating religion and politics and there's no separating the state and the church. Race and nation always trumps the individual. That's why it's said that America is a "Christian nation" and not a "nation of Christians." The latter is mostly true from a historical perspective but the former has never been true.
 
Old 01-11-2021, 11:19 PM
 
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This might explain this:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8VOM8ET1WU



I think there is a big overlap between Southern white evangelicals and racism.
Not just Southern, white evangelicals though
Boston (as NE area) Catholics have long history of racism even though Catholics were often reviled and discriminated against by Protestants when Catholics were immigrants in the 1800s and early 1900s
And check this research re the integration of religious sects
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...igious-groups/

And this link shows documented history of lynching in America
Maybe the more open areas in Western US is because of scarcity of people, including blacks but didn’t read all the article
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...tes-180961877/
 
Old 01-11-2021, 11:24 PM
 
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What he really means is that the Democrats oppose state-imposed Christianity and support allowing people of all faiths and no faiths to exist in our society. To a conservative Christian, there's no separating religion and politics and there's no separating the state and the church. Race and nation always trumps the individual. That's why it's said that America is a "Christian nation" and not a "nation of Christians." The latter is mostly true from a historical perspective but the former has never been true.
Remember the phrase “under God” was not originally part of pledge of allegiance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance
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