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Old 01-21-2021, 12:41 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Fauci is as much to blame as China.
For what?
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Old 01-21-2021, 01:01 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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Haha, I got banned for 30 days for criticizing the vaccines at health and wellness. They are very pro drug industry.

As the mod for Health and Wellness, if you got banned it was for another reason than for criticizing vaccines.
First of all, vaccine threads are NOT ALLOWED in H&W and that was the rule before I ever came on as mod. That's because people fight and fight and fight. Since COVID, I have allowed some discussions of THIS PARTICULAR vaccine because we are in a pandemic and some threads provide information.

When people start fighting over it, the thread is closed. Good places to discuss COVID are Current Events general coronavirus thread and there is a thread for older people on the Retirement Forum too.
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:03 PM
 
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Vaccines do NOT take 5-10 years to develop when we pour MONEY, TIME, and RESOURCE into developing it.

It's like that door in your house that no longer closes all the way and been like that for 5 years. It does not take 5 years to fix a door, it only took 5 years because no one bothered to fix it.

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You can't compare vaccine development for a novel coronavirus to fixing a door yeesh!!!
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:14 PM
 
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Yeah, there's a reason it's not FDA approved, only emergency approved. And they're not liable for any deaths or side affects.

But it takes courage to admit you were wrong, kudos.
Yep.

Most people don't even understand that it's not approved. I bet if you polled 100 people on the street 95 would say yes, it's FDA approved.
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Well, it's been up there for over four months (published September 1, 2020), so that seems unlikely.

Currently, there have been over 12 million doses of vaccine given in the U.S. I haven't heard of any real horror stories. Out of 12 million? That's actually pretty impressive.
Would it really surprise you if there were LOTS of side effects and they're just not being widely reported on? This is the same country that needed folks like Julian Assange and Edward Snowden to blow the whistle on extreme government corruption before we had any clue about it. For some reason, both the Left and Right of mainstream news seems to just go along to get along when it comes to big government projects.

Do you have any hard data the rate of side effects and their severity?
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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There is some growing evidence that very frail, very elderly people may experience greater side effects from the Pfizer vaccine, and even a correlation with increased mortality (as seen in Norway).

You might get more helpful resonses in the Health and Wellness sub-forum than here in the Politics & Other Conspiracies sub-forum.

Social media strikes again.

Norway targeted the most vulnerable within their population for the vaccination, very old, frail with serious disease.

This is the cohort most likely to die, no matter what.

Norway has not found any correlation between these deaths and the vaccine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN29P2R1

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...e-among-very-/
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:29 PM
 
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Social media strikes again.

Norway targeted the most vulnerable within their population for the vaccination, very old, frail with serious disease.

This is the cohort most likely to die, no matter what.

Norway has not found any correlation between these deaths and the vaccine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN29P2R1

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...e-among-very-/
That is the same group who most often dies from covid yet when they die with covid people are upset that these old people were taken too soon due to covid yet when they die after a vaccine it seems to be ok because they were old and frail and with serious disease and were going to die soon anyway.
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:32 PM
 
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Social media strikes again.

Norway targeted the most vulnerable within their population for the vaccination, very old, frail with serious disease.

This is the cohort most likely to die, no matter what.

Norway has not found any correlation between these deaths and the vaccine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN29P2R1

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...e-among-very-/
False. They were articles SHARED through social media.

They were not "made up by social media."

Interesting that the slant attacks social media. People better wake up or we will lose free speech. Can't have his talking to each other ...

I guess we should shut down CD too? Since people talk about all sorts of things here? Can't have that ...
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:41 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Would it really surprise you if there were LOTS of side effects and they're just not being widely reported on?
Oh, you mean like there are LOTS of people infected with Covid-19 but they're just not being widely reported on because nobody knows about them? Maybe some of them die, too, unreported. So yeah, I guess it would only be the really serious side effects that the health districts - and anybody else - hear about.
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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They have strong immunity systems.
In the 1917 Pandemic, were in the 20s and very strong immune systems.
Now with killed virus, DNA-RNA vaccines, we may still get reactions and highly unlikely to kill us vs an active reproducing virus.

I get a vaccine reaction that will put me down for 1-3 days. Even the annual flu vaccine will put me out for a day plus sore a arm. Age 70. prediabetic 2/stent/high BP/moderately high Cholesterol-being medicated.
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