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Old 01-26-2021, 09:33 AM
 
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Here is some of the video that will be presented showing Trump instigating the insurrection. They used video captured on Parler. This is pretty damning in any court of Law

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1353706505963524096
Most reasonable people would have concluded, after reviewing Trump’s behavior post election, that he instigated the terror attack on our Capitol. His very own lieutenant Rudy G told the crowd to have a “trial by combat” at the Capitol. These violence-deniers are similar to Sandy Hook deniers and Parkland false flaggers in many ways.
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Old 01-26-2021, 09:35 AM
 
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That is an illogical inference: you can’t predict what percentage of the 75 million would have stormed the Capitol had they been given the opportunity. Only 5,000 or so Trump supporters had the opportunity to be there, as you said.

I realize logic is difficult for you, but don’t make an inference about the behavior of the other 74,995,000 Trump supporters based on their absence from the event. It is embarrassing to read.
LOL we can't predict how many of the 80 million Biden voters would do anything under the sun that some Biden voters have done had they been given the opportunity. Attempted to storm the Whitehouse all weekend around June 1? check.
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Old 01-26-2021, 09:42 AM
 
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LOL we can't predict how many of the 80 million Biden voters would do anything under the sun that some Biden voters have done had they been given the opportunity. Attempted to storm the Whitehouse all weekend around June 1? check.
But they couldn't do to security in place, as per usual. Why wasn't security in place on Jan 6?

Pentagon restricted commander of D.C. Guard ahead of Capitol riot

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...96e_story.html

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The commander of the D.C. National Guard said the Pentagon restricted his authority ahead of the riot at the U.S. Capitol, requiring higher level sign-off to respond that cost time as the events that day spiraled out of control.

Local commanders typically have the power to take military action on their own to save lives or prevent significant property damage in an urgent situation when there isn’t enough time to obtain approval from headquarters.

But Maj. Gen. William J. Walker, the commanding general of the District of Columbia National Guard, said the Pentagon essentially took that power and other authorities away from him ahead of a pro-Trump protest on Jan. 6. That meant he couldn’t immediately roll out troops when he received a panicked phone call from the Capitol Police chief warning that rioters were about to enter the U.S. Capitol.
Now who is responsible for this? And Why??
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Old 01-26-2021, 09:47 AM
 
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But they couldn't do to security in place, as per usual. Why wasn't security in place on Jan 6?

Pentagon restricted commander of D.C. Guard ahead of Capitol riot

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...96e_story.html



Now who is responsible for this? And Why??
That's a different question from who is responsible for the people who stormed the Capitol. First and foremost the people who did it are individually responsible alone.
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Old 01-26-2021, 09:52 AM
 
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LOL we can't predict how many of the 80 million Biden voters would do anything under the sun that some Biden voters have done had they been given the opportunity. Attempted to storm the Whitehouse all weekend around June 1? check.
You cannot address the actual domestic terrorism that occurred on Jan 6, so now you flood this thread with nonsense. Check.

What we (by we, I mean reasonable individuals who can actually focus on the topic) can say is that a very high percentage of those who stormed the Capitol on Jan 6 believed there was election fraud and/or the election was illegitimate. Now, what percentage of Trump supporters in contemporaneous polls believed the election was illegitimate or doubted Biden’s electoral victory?

Here’s an instructive reading: https://www.vox.com/2021/1/11/222255...l-inauguration

What you can conclude is that millions of Trump supporters were susceptible to and believed in Trump’s assault on our electoral integrity, and more specifically the legitimacy of a Biden electoral victory.

Trump then invited his supporters to assemble, used his lieutenants to urge the crowd to have a “trial by combat”, and urged them to fight to take back the election that was stolen from him, otherwise they would lose their nation.

January 6 deniers can pretend it was not a horrific day in American history all they want. Majorities of Americans (the most recent polls indicate about 60%) want Trump permanently barred from holding elected office precisely because they recognize the anti-American impulses he encouraged and his role in the Jan 6 domestic terror attack in the heart of our republic.
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Old 01-26-2021, 09:53 AM
 
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That's a different question from who is responsible for the people who stormed the Capitol. First and foremost the people who did it are individually responsible alone.
I think there is a bunch more that is coming out surrounding Jan. 6. The evidence will be presented at the Impeachment Trial...should be interesting.
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Old 01-26-2021, 10:08 AM
 
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Trump will be acquitted, which is what Democrats want, believing he will be a millstone around the GOP’s neck for a long time.
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Old 01-26-2021, 10:11 AM
 
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Trump will be acquitted, which is what Democrats want, believing he will be a millstone around the GOP’s neck for a long time.
It is highly possible to put senators on the record and keep Trump as their albatross to bear without actually convicting Trump. The ideal outcome would be to convict and disqualify Trump from holding federal office in the future, which is what 60% of Americans want. But some of our GOP colleagues in the senate may fail our country. At least it’ll be on record.
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Old 01-26-2021, 10:12 AM
 
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Trump will be acquitted, which is what Democrats want, believing he will be a millstone around the GOP’s neck for a long time.
Trump screwed the GOP.
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Old 01-26-2021, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Trumplubicians still support Donald Trump, blind still leading the blind. Outcome of trial is predictable.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...5zH?li=BBnb7Kz



Trump stated go peacefully to the capital.. this impeachment doesn't fly...just like the last failed impeachment..
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