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View Poll Results: How long will "wokeism" be a thing?
It's already starting to die 25 20.16%
The next 5-10 years 27 21.77%
The next 10-20 years (a whole generation) 13 10.48%
It's here to stay, get used to hating George Washington 59 47.58%
Voters: 124. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-02-2021, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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The first attempted colony in Roanoke NC in 1585 was completely wiped out.
The colonists didn't exactly treat the natives very well. No one really knows what happened to the colony. There were some reports that they abandoned the colony and moved inland.

The problem for the colony was that their harvests failed. They should have just abandoned the colony completely and went back to Britain to resupply. Instead many stayed behind and were left starving, which forced them to get food from the nearby tribes, sometimes taking it by force.

Even without the Native-Americans, the colonists likely would have starved to death because the colony wasn't resupplied for three years as a result of the war between Britain and Spain.

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No, Indians did not commit war for the purpose of genocide or completely eradicating their foes like the English and later Americans did.
The natives definitely genocided each other, and attempted to genocide the Europeans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_massacre_of_1622

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pequot_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Philip%27s_War

Why did they try to kill all the Europeans? And can you really blame them?

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Old 02-02-2021, 01:05 PM
 
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This is too long to read all of it now, but I did search this thread for the word "considerate" and didn't find it. That's basically what being woke is, being considerate of others' sensibilities. If a group finds certain words, structures, institutions, or narratives offensive, it's only considerate to take their feelings into consideration and look for a way forward that does not demean them. If you reject being a decent person, of course, others might take offense.
I didn't notice, but you do have a point. I feel like some people are more about wanting to be inconsiderate to others, rather than freedom of speech. Admittedly, there are some things that go to far. On the flip side, some people know that certain things are just inconsiderate, but don't want to stop. When someone tells them "that is inconsiderate, stop it", it's literally like a threat to some people.
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Old 02-02-2021, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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This is too long to read all of it now, but I did search this thread for the word "considerate" and didn't find it. That's basically what being woke is, being considerate of others' sensibilities. If a group finds certain words, structures, institutions, or narratives offensive, it's only considerate to take their feelings into consideration and look for a way forward that does not demean them. If you reject being a decent person, of course, others might take offense.
If you were never offended in your entire life, if no one ever disagreed with you, if no one ever tried to stop you from doing whatever you want to do, would you be happier? What is happiness? Are we more happy today than we were in the past? Why?

Do you have a moral responsibility to stop someone from doing something that you believe they'll regret, and which could ruin their entire life(and possibly the lives of others), even if they don't want to be stopped?

Do you have a moral responsibility to tell the truth even if people don't want to hear it?

"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine
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Old 02-02-2021, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Palm Coast FL
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Do you have a moral responsibility to tell the truth even if people don't want to hear it?
If you know what is offensive and what is not and you still choose to offend, is that moral?
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Old 02-02-2021, 01:26 PM
 
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This is too long to read all of it now, but I did search this thread for the word "considerate" and didn't find it. That's basically what being woke is, being considerate of others' sensibilities. If a group finds certain words, structures, institutions, or narratives offensive, it's only considerate to take their feelings into consideration and look for a way forward that does not demean them. If you reject being a decent person, of course, others might take offense.
Question. Is 2+2 is offensive?
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Old 02-02-2021, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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If you know what is offensive and what is not and you still choose to offend, is that moral?
All "tolerance" does is enable stupidity and self-destructive behavior.
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Old 02-03-2021, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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This is too long to read all of it now, but I did search this thread for the word "considerate" and didn't find it. That's basically what being woke is, being considerate of others' sensibilities. If a group finds certain words, structures, institutions, or narratives offensive, it's only considerate to take their feelings into consideration and look for a way forward that does not demean them. If you reject being a decent person, of course, others might take offense.
Total B.S. It is about controlling thought, speech and actions Far Leftists disagree with. Grow up.
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Old 02-03-2021, 09:14 AM
 
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If you know what is offensive and what is not and you still choose to offend, is that moral?
That's rich hypocrisy. Woke is largely about scapegoating and calling people and everything they do racist and supremacist. What could be more offensive?
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Old 02-03-2021, 09:18 AM
 
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Total B.S. It is about controlling thought, speech and actions Far Leftists disagree with. Grow up.
And by falsely painting the entire white race as basically one big dormant nazi party. That's not offensive and racist at all .
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Old 02-03-2021, 09:56 AM
 
Location: New York City
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The woke era will end when the "Victimhood/Safety Culture" ends on the college campus and returns to a Truth Culture

Here is a fantastic presentation at Duke University in 2016 which explains exactly how we got here, it has aged AMAZINGLY well:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gatn5ameRr8
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