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I watched that, too. Clearly the more "riotous" and violent videos of this assault on the Capitol came out well after Jan 6. Some of the worst videos are still coming out. In light of such evidence, it's silly to claim that this was not an extremely violent mob assaulting with flag poles and bear spray the officers who were trying to protect the Capitol, the Senators, the VP, the Representatives, and their staffs and other Capitol workers. Silly and preposterous!
I don't deny there was violence at the Capitol on Jan 6. The "riot" appears to be orchestrated to intentionally disrupt Arizona's (and other states') presentation of election fraud to the Senate. Trump supporters don't bring helmets, shield, clubs, etc... to Trump rallies. All lot of the vandals looked and acted like Antifa with Trump stickers on their helmets.
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Her not retreating "in and of itself", as the law quotes, is in no way justification to use deadly force or the attempt of. That is the purpose of the DC FOI request, to determine facts and draw a legal conclusion of liability/culpability.
We will have to wait and, hopefully, see then. But as I'd basically stated, if it is proven that she had refused to stop 'after being warned' then my stance will change. At this point it strongly appears that those in power, on the left, do not want people to know what had happened, and that smacks of a coverup.
I don't deny there was violence at the Capitol on Jan 6. The "riot" appears to be orchestrated to intentionally disrupt Arizona's (and other states') presentation of election fraud to the Senate. Trump supporters don't bring helmets, shield, clubs, etc... to Trump rallies. All lot of the vandals looked and acted like Antifa with Trump stickers on their helmets.
So that Babbitt chick is antifa? The one who was clearly a Trump supporter who was tweeting about insurrection and fighting? You know the one that got her self killed rightfully so by breaking into the capital? She’s antifa is that what you’re trying to say? Trumplettes were there to disrupt the certification of the election. And you know it. End of story. Don’t bother responding.
Ashli Babbitt’s Legal Team Breaks Silence on Capitol Tragedy – Requests Public’s Help in Identifying Persons of Interest
After over a month of silence and many unanswered questions, Ashli Babbitt’s legal team has started opening up to the public.
Last month four Trump supporters were killed in the US Capitol siege in Washington DC. One victim, was Ashli Babbitt who was gunned down by a Capitol Hill Police Officer inside the capitol during the protests. To date, this officer’s name has not been released.
She was a traitor that attacked the capitol and was part of an insurrection that threatened lawmakers and attempted to subvert an election and will of the majority of Americans that voted in 2020. Her death is a tragedy that she brought upon herself.
The District of Columbia's Department of Justice completed their investigation and found the officer acted within good faith and believed that it was necessary to do so in self-defense or in defense of the Members of Congress and others evacuating the House Chamber.
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Context means a lot. You're neglecting to mention the violent, angry mob behind her that would likely come streaming into that protected area once she got inside. Violent? How did that window get broken? That mob was pounding on the doors, seeking to bust in. Along with Babbitt, they were all an immediate threat to the officers protecting that area and protecting the fleeing congress people.
"Streaming"? How many people do you suppose could fit through that window at one time? As of that particular time that was the only means to get into the other area. As of that particular moment in time none of them were an immediate threat to the cop who'd murdered Babbitt. Stop with your theatrics.
Once again, this is not just "trespassing". This was breaking and entering into the chambers which contained numbers 1, 2, & 3 in the line of succession to the Presidency. She wasn't shot for "trespassing". She was shot for attempting to enter, via broken window, the aforementioned chambers.
Reasonable force was exercised by law enforcement and stopped further advances. I'd say it was successful.
If trespassing doesn't matter, we sure do spend a lot of money on Secret Service detail protecting the White House. Someone ought to write to them and let them know that a random person on the internet said they are not allowed to shoot.
Edited to address your other comment - yes of course they are allowed to air their grievances in a court of law. That's expected and encouraged in this country. It's kind of like someone breaking into your house then suing you because they got injured. There's nothing saying they can't sue, if they want to waste the money, go for it.
This was a case of alleged breaking and entering. Innocent until proven guilty is the standard. Alleged trespassing. No judgement was made regarding the legality of her actions. Any number of circumstances could contribute to her being found not guilty, if she was arrested and charged. You just can’t shoot her down without an imminent threat . That hasn’t been established or conclusively agreed upon using due process.
The Lawsuit is a Civil matter. It should also be in a criminal court. Just like George Floyd and countless others killed by Law Enforcement. You fail to address the key fact that Congress is the one protecting the Capitol Police. They have special rules. Special treatment. Secret Police.
The District of Columbia's Department of Justice completed their investigation and found the officer acted within good faith and believed that it was necessary to do so in self-defense or in defense of the Members of Congress and others evacuating the House Chamber.
Maybe a few fires, riots and burned buildings might have changed their mind. Let’s see their “ investigation”. Let’s have the name of the Officer, so we can look at his background. Let’s do what the media does to every other LEO that shoots a citizen. How about his record as a LEO ? What witnesses did they interview ? On and on.
Like I said, Banana Republic all the way. That’s where we are headed. I guess it means there will not be a statue for Ashli anytime soon.
The people roaming around the Capitol were unarmed. Hardly an insurrection.
If someone hits you over the head or forcefully pokes you in the gut with a flagpole, would you consider that person unarmed?
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