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Old 03-13-2021, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Not sure you quite understand what's happening here.

Breakfast at Tiffany's played Mickey Rooney in yellowface as a cheap racist laugh. The works, full-out and unironic - prostetic buckteeth, round glasses, silly accent. Har-de-harhar, look at that funny guy not fitting in with civilized people.

Blazing Saddles, on the other hand, spends a lot of running time on skewering just that sort of folksy racism and those who hold on to it.

If you can't handle the idea of someone pointing out that perhaps we shouldn't have made a joke out of this:



- then the creators of Blazing Saddles aren't in your corner.

Mickey Rooney's role is a blemish in an otherwise great film. So we put it in perspective, rather than forget or edit the film. Americans can't handle adult conversations like that?
They are movies. Fiction. We can criticize things we don't like, but this is going beyond that. You don't somehow make things better by trying to whitewash them. May this leftist effort to whitewash and erase fail miserably. .
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Old 03-13-2021, 06:09 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Whose turn is it to explain, using little words, that TCM is in fact showing the movies?
Take the long view my friend..the long view.
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Old 03-13-2021, 06:12 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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You know, folks, I'm wondering if we should revisit this topic in a year or two. At that time, perhaps all of you who are saying "It's a ban on Breakfast at Tiffany's [etc.]!" should go out and see if these films truly are cancelled or banned or whatever term you like.

See if you can find them at your local public library; and if they're unavailable, find out if another borrower has the library copy, or whether the library never had a copy, or whether the library's copy was worn out. Or, whether the library withdrew its copy because it wasn't popular, and the library needed the shelf space. If all of the above produce reasonable answers as to why the library doesn't have a copy, then ask it if the reason that the library does not have a copy is because some government official or private group of busybodies made them withdraw it from circulation. If the answer to that is Yes, then you might have a point. Until then, you don't.

Heck, call the Library of Congress and/or the American Film Institute and find out if these institutions still have copies of these films in their libraries.

For that matter, in a year's time, order a new, unused copy of these films from Amazon or another online vendor. Visit a local media store (DVDs, Blu-Rays, CDs, LPs, and other pop culture) to find a new copy; or visit a secondhand store or pawn shop, and try to find these films among their DVD/Blu-Ray offerings. Because I'm sure that you will be able to find them, in any or all of the above.

So let's revisit this topic in a year's time, and see if these films really and truly are cancelled, banned, or whatever. I'm pretty sure that they will still be available.
You don't need to wait a year.

Song of the South will never be seen again in theaters.
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Old 03-13-2021, 10:43 AM
 
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They are movies. Fiction. We can criticize things we don't like, but this is going beyond that. You don't somehow make things better by trying to whitewash them. May this leftist effort to whitewash and erase fail miserably. .

Who are these people? They are like mullahs of the west. How do they get so much power?
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Old 03-13-2021, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Whose turn is it to explain, using little words, that TCM is in fact showing the movies?
Won't help.

There is a frightening trend which is increasing.

Right wingers have lost their ability to consider anything different from that of the talking points continuously repeated to them by right-wing media outlets.

Sad really because it seems they have lost their ability to use critical thinking skills.
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Old 03-13-2021, 11:46 AM
 
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Whose turn is it to explain that bans start in little baby steps as a trial balloon to see the public reaction. Maybe have some vision and intelligence for a change instead of being an indoctrinated serf.
As I may have posted a few times, we're not obliged to debate the version of reality that exists inside your head only. Is your impulse to be a victim really that strong?
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Old 03-13-2021, 11:48 AM
 
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We can criticize things we don't like, but this is going beyond that.
We are quite literally debating TCM's decision to offer up criticism of (aspects of) the movies.
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Old 03-13-2021, 03:17 PM
 
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We can blame ALL of this on whining pathetic Liberals!
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Old 03-13-2021, 07:18 PM
 
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Have they gone after all the porn movies that have been made? Haven't heard a peep out of them on that.
TCM, in general, isn't into that sort of content. Unless you subscribe to different channels than I do.

Incidentally, yes - there has been a heckuva lot of debate among people being, as you'd sneeringly call it, "woke". Is porn liberating or misogynistic? And of course, people who produce pornography aren't in the circles where people who make actual movies are. They're kinda - scuzzy.
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Old 03-13-2021, 07:19 PM
 
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Isn't Turner Classics a private company? Don't conservatives have nothing better to do than to dictate what products private companies must sell?
No one can feel more victimized than a conservative who's convinced that the market isn't rewarding them. They worship the market, it should cater to them, dammit!
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