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Old 03-10-2021, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Originally Posted by yspobo View Post
Right. They really want everyone to get it no matter what. I don't have an active immune system. Vaccines are supposed to work with the immune system. There's no way to get immunity with a vaccine like that. What legit reason would I have to even get any vaccine right now? It literally would do nothing for me.
No, they do not "want everyone to get it no matter what".

Discuss it with your doctor if you have questions.

 
Old 03-10-2021, 12:29 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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I don't have an active immune system. Vaccines are supposed to work with the immune system. There's no way to get immunity with a vaccine like that. What legit reason would I have to even get any vaccine right now? It literally would do nothing for me.
If you're alive, you have an active immune system.
 
Old 03-10-2021, 12:49 PM
 
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They are approved for emergency use.
But it is actually against the fda rules to use an emergency status vaccine for a disease with existing treatments, and that has a lower effective rate than the survival rate of the actual disease.
And they are even pushing this vaccine (which is actually gene therapy...not a vaccine), to people that have already had the disease and have real antibodies to it. That should be criminal.
Probably the reason why certain non money making treatments such as ivermectin are being suppressed. If they were approved, the vaccine could not be used via emergency use.
 
Old 03-10-2021, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Probably the reason why certain non money making treatments such as ivermectin are being suppressed. If they were approved, the vaccine could not be used via emergency use.
Ivermectin has not been approved because it has not been shown to work. There are potential effective treatments being evaluated but even if those prove helpful the vaccines are still needed. Better not to get the virus at all than get it and take any treatment.

Emergency use authorization requires that the vaccine be effective (they are) and less dangerous than the disease (they are). Availability of treatment has nothing to do with it.
 
Old 03-10-2021, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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not irresponsible. My body my choice, right my liberal hypocrites?
 
Old 03-10-2021, 01:07 PM
 
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Ivermectin has not been approved because it has not been shown to work. There are potential effective treatments being evaluated but even if those prove helpful the vaccines are still needed. Better not to get the virus at all than get it and take any treatment.

Emergency use authorization requires that the vaccine be effective (they are) and less dangerous than the disease (they are). Availability of treatment has nothing to do with it.
But cannot be MANDATORY with emergency use authorization. That is why the Military is not enforcing vaccinations. As such, no private employer should fire an employee for refusal for an emergency use authorization vaccine.

You need to do your math for 70 to 80% of the population vaccinated for herd immunity. CHILDREN make up 25% of the population and are not approved for the vaccine.

That amounts to 75% adult population which means that EVERY ADULT would have to be vaccinated for your herd immunity. Do you seriously think every adult in the US is going to volunteer to be vaccinated? You are going to have enforce your "consequences" for vaccine refusal which according to polls is in the 30% range.

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Old 03-10-2021, 01:09 PM
 
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If you're alive, you have an active immune system.
My immune system is suppressed.
 
Old 03-10-2021, 01:14 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Imagine if they had to filter every scientific advancement or discovery through the minds of idiots and ask for their approval. Where would humanity be? I find these threads on C-D highly amusing.
 
Old 03-10-2021, 01:17 PM
 
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Ivermectin has not been approved because it has not been shown to work. There are potential effective treatments being evaluated but even if those prove helpful the vaccines are still needed. Better not to get the virus at all than get it and take any treatment.

Emergency use authorization requires that the vaccine be effective (they are) and less dangerous than the disease (they are). Availability of treatment has nothing to do with it.
Science is a field that is just as corrupt as any other. When studies are designed to fail, you get negative results.
 
Old 03-10-2021, 01:18 PM
 
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not irresponsible. My body my choice, right my liberal hypocrites?
It goes beyond politics. I am a Democrat and will refuse to be vaccinated.
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