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As usual, my post was not understood. Surprise, surprise. I was responding to this statement made by some poster:
"Originally Posted by Tall Traveler View Post
This is why Muslims are not a good fit in a Western open society."
My entire point was that a branch of my family is Muslim (I'm not--the family history is complicated) and they are just regular people working and living here and doing well, and certainly don't hold these extremist beliefs, even though they are followers of Islam. And that's how most Muslims practice their faith. So on behalf of them, I resent a statement that states "this is why Muslims are not a good fit in a Western open society." Half of my family is here, working as highly successful MIT-trained engineers, and fitting in just fine. They could be anyone's co-worker or neighbor. They even vote. And if you can't see why I and they (although they're for sure not on CD), would find a blanket statement that reads "this is why Muslims are not a good fit in Western open society" offensive, you've slipped over the edge and there's nothing more to say on this.
Last edited by Moving415; 03-12-2021 at 02:24 PM..
As usual, my post was not understood. Surprise, surprise. I was responding to this statement made by some poster:
"Originally Posted by Tall Traveler View Post
This is why Muslims are not a good fit in a Western open society."
My entire point was that a branch of my family is Muslim (I'm not--the family history is complicated) and they are just regular people working and living here and doing well, and certainly don't hold these extremist beliefs, even though they are followers of Islam. And that's how most Muslims practice their faith. So on behalf of them, I resent a statement that states "this is why Muslims are not a good fit in a Western open society." Half of my family is here, working as highly successful MIT-trained engineers, and fitting in just fine. They could be anyone's co-worker or neighbor. They even vote. And if you can't see why I and they (although they're for sure not on CD), would find a blanket statement that reads "this is why Muslims are not a good fit in Western open society" offensive, you've slipped over the edge and there's nothing more to say on this.
So, they're practicing Muslims? Just wait until one of their children come out as gay or Lesbian, like they did in my extended family. The"Entire" segment of my Muslim family disowned my Cousin when she came out, except my Aunt, who was the one who was stupid enough to marry a devout Muslim in the first place.
CNN reported that there are no gay Muslims in this poll, so their are no issues
So, they're practicing Muslims? Just wait until one of their children come out as gay or Lesbian, like they did in my extended family. The"Entire" segment of my Muslim family disowned my Cousin when she came out, except my Aunt, who was the one who was stupid enough to marry a devout Muslim in the first place.
That's already happened in my family. Of course there was some angst, but ultimately, acceptance ruled. I'm sorry for what happened in your own family, but I'm glad your cousin had at least one ally.
That's already happened in my family. Of course there was some angst, but ultimately, acceptance ruled. I'm sorry for what happened in your own family, but I'm glad your cousin had at least one ally.
She has the entire Christian, Jewish, and non religous side of the family on her side, just not any Muslims.
So, they're practicing Muslims? Just wait until one of their children come out as gay or Lesbian, like they did in my extended family. The"Entire" segment of my Muslim family disowned my Cousin when she came out, except my Aunt, who was the one who was stupid enough to marry a devout Muslim in the first place.
How many times have we seen a Muslim in this country commit a terrorist act, only to have others say after the fact that he was a nice, friendly guy who got along with everybody (non-Muslims included)? The San Bernardino killer comes to mind. He was born in the US and all his co-workers got along very will with him.
Then there are those Muslims who legally immigrate here then become citizens. Like the Muslim who lived in CT and tried to blow up Times Square. When he was in court he went into a tirade about how he hated America. There also was the Muslim who planned to blow up Metrorail in DC. He, too, became a US citizen. Again, he ranted in court about how he hated America. How odd that these two would want to become citizens of a country they hate.
Muslims' first loyalty is to their religion. IOW, they put religion ahead of their country.
All that said, there are many Muslims who are law-abiding and will continue to be so.
I've also seen how many of them treat their daughters, and it is heartbreaking. In my town, I knew of 3 girls who were forced into marriages that had them end up in Pakistan with a man they never met until they married them. One of them was a girl that I got to know well as she went to school with my daughter. When this girl was 12, she showed up in middle school wearing an engagement ring. She told everybody that she was engaged to marry a man in Pakistan. At the end of the school year, the family sold their Halal store and moved. No one knew where they went. My gut feeling was that they moved to Pakistan where she was forced into marriage. That really saddened me. She was a nice girl who craved attention. Also, she enjoyed writing. One day, when I volunteered in school I told her that she wrote well. She smiled shyly and told me she liked when I told her that. I often think of her and wonder if she is okay...
Back to the topic at hand---It was really horrifying what was done to this teacher. I'm glad to see that the girl's father is being held accountable for his actions.
You think? A religion based on Mohammad, the ideal man, who was a Slaver, Murderer, and Child Molester. What could go wrong Why do you think Obama was Importing them by the thousands after destroying or destabilizing Libya, and Syria.
It's all about destroying America....that's the goal of the Woke Supremacists.
As usual, my post was not understood. Surprise, surprise. I was responding to this statement made by some poster:
"Originally Posted by Tall Traveler View Post
This is why Muslims are not a good fit in a Western open society."
My entire point was that a branch of my family is Muslim (I'm not--the family history is complicated) and they are just regular people working and living here and doing well, and certainly don't hold these extremist beliefs, even though they are followers of Islam. And that's how most Muslims practice their faith. So on behalf of them, I resent a statement that states "this is why Muslims are not a good fit in a Western open society." Half of my family is here, working as highly successful MIT-trained engineers, and fitting in just fine. They could be anyone's co-worker or neighbor. They even vote. And if you can't see why I and they (although they're for sure not on CD), would find a blanket statement that reads "this is why Muslims are not a good fit in Western open society" offensive, you've slipped over the edge and there's nothing more to say on this.
Fair point, I also know many wonderful Muslims but it's the extremist that we have to protect ourselves against.
Fair point, I also know many wonderful Muslims but it's the extremist that we have to protect ourselves against.
Unfortunately anyone who is loyal to religion over country can be suspect. It's of no real danger when a Pacifist Religion puts religion over country. Its only really a concern when you have religions that issue Idicts that are actually carried out to assasinate those who bad mouth your faith. This of course is mainly Islam. When the Pope actually starts sending out hits on people talking bad about Jesus we can put it in the same realm as Islam.
Doesn't help when you having a President running cover for the likes of Nidal Hussan, the Pulse night club killers, and the Boston bombers. I'm sure Barock Hussian Obama would not call 911 a terrorist attack either if he could have gotten away with it!
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