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I support regulation, not a law, defining guidelines for family size. I would not want to see a China style oversight of family size which leads to many abortions and unwanted girls, but I would like to see some reasonable guidelines for family size thus avoiding the "Duggars" syndrome of runaway child production!
A "regulation" is a law Steve
A "regulation" cannot be adopted without enabling legislation - a law
Perhaps the the Duggars should have considered their God's desire that foster and orphaned children should have loving parents rather than performing as a sire and dame and add more children to a world were millions of children have nothing, let alone any parents!
Bill Gothard's principles as well as those of Doug Philips, are very extreme. They make the RCC look liberal in comparison. As a current practicing Catholic, I don't see RCC that conservative in the U.S., and if it is, people are certainly not following the "have all the kids you can have" mantra, that's for sure. We have 7 children ourselves; I don't see huge Catholic families in our churches and schools; nothing like it was year ago.
Under Doug Philips and the Vision Forum preaching, women are subjugated as being subservient to men, men are the patriarchs of the family, women need to "submit" to the man, some aren't even allowed to speak in church as women are to remain silent. What people fail to realize is that this whole Quiverfull movement is not just about having as many kids as possible, there are political and social, and other overtones involved. It is about producing enough "Christian warriors" to overcome the evil in this world. It's about having enough "Christian warriors" to influence the politics and associated legislation in our country. I'm really sorry that people are not "getting that", that they're still stuck on the: how many kids a family has issue. No one really cares. Most people have the attitude that if you can afford them and take care of them, then more power to you. This is NOT about that; Bill Gothard and Doug Philips are not about that. If you think that RCC is about the Dark Ages, you haven't seen anything yet until you read the ideology and legalistic text of either of these two men, especially Doug Philips.
'Arrows for the War' | AlterNet - The Christian 'Quiverfull' movement measures a mother's spiritual resolve by the number of children she raises, each one an arrow in the quiver of God's army.
ABC News: The More the Holier? - When Having Kids is a Religious Experience - A Growing Movement for Growing Families for God
Quiverfull - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Andrea Yates was involved in this movement; something that the Quiverfull people try to label as an anomoly, try to distance themselves from. Here's a write-up on that:
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Originally Posted by Steve Hazzard Perhaps the the Duggars should have considered their God's desire that foster and orphaned children should have loving parents rather than performing as a sire and dame and add more children to a world were millions of children have nothing, let alone any parents!
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That's it Steve. You're outta here.
I'm always glad to oblige the less than open minded OP's!
I don't think some of you know what an earned income tax credit is. It is a credit given to low income families with 1 or more children and it is capped at 2 or more children at $4,716. This family is not a low income family and are not dependent on the government or anyone else.
Perhaps the the Duggars should have considered their God's desire that foster and orphaned children should have loving parents rather than performing as a sire and dame and add more children to a world were millions of children have nothing, let alone any parents!
Well if you want to bring GOD into the matter. What is God's desire for the people who abandon their own children in this world?
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