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Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by Travis1970
Desperately trying to the escape astronomically high taxes, where the average home is valued at over a million dollars, coupled with with a tremendous cost of living, highway gridlock, bad air, and a homeless population that makes urban Austin look like a rural area, the working class of California are selling off and moving to everyone's favorite destination, the promised land, Austin Texas. Armed with plenty of money from the sale their property price to sunstruck liberals who salivate at the thought of servitude in the Socialist domain that California has become, it is estimated that two thirds of Los Angeles County will move here over the next 5 to 10 years. Where they will by no state income tax, defeated by a $7.25 minimum wage, a return for tax dollar paid lower than the state of Mississippi, right to work, and of course public services that are laughable compared to their former home state. Welcome to reality.
This state isn't socialist, the state government doesn't run the industry. And the tax situation is overblown by conservatives. Texas has high property taxes
Arizona has become better the less right wing its become, not worse
Yeah sure, Explains why Phoenix is one of the most violent cities in Arizona, and Mesa a Republican run city with a similar per Capita income has half the violent crime rate. Guess little Miss Gallego brought her Albuquerque crime rate with her. Dems, F-up everywhere they go You couldn't just screw up predominately black cities like Detroit, Baltimore, DC, Chicago, now you screw up Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, SF, and now Phoenix.
They're not fleeing failure. They're fleeing wild capitalist success. Mainly high housing costs. Which exists because demand is so high. Demand would not be so high and prices so high if they were failures. They're also where business and talent has congregated. Liberal policies that try to do something about those left behind don't cause the high housing costs/homelessness/etc, they are a reaction to it.
Or are they intentionally spreading the vote so that the popular vote and electoral vote will match?
No, they are fleeing high property taxes. Free in state tuition for non citizens and many other policies aren't free and the money comes from somewhere. That is not capitalism.
The problem is that they're fleeing their blue, high taxed and regulated states for red, low taxed and less regulated states but then register as a Dem. and vote for the same policies that they just fled from.
There's no end in sight of the mass exodus out of Liberal cities and states.
This is the first time I've seen San Fran mentioned though. I've heard Cali mentioned, but not San Fran specifically.
It's usually NYC, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Illinois, Detroit, Minneapolis, Baltimore, Philly, Cleveland, ect..
If Liberal policy was so good, why are so many people fleeing Liberal controlled areas? Bad schools seems to be a common theme for most of the Lib destruction. That leads to crime, drugg addiction, high abortion rates, & homelessness.
Liberal policies are like parasites, in that they eventually weaken their hosts to the point of collapse. They can co-exist for the while, but in the end, the slow and gradual decay catches up, and it all breaks down.
Look at how many cities Liberal policies have destroyed, or are in the process of destroying. The list is long.
There are very few cities & states run by Conservatives who have had the same destruction that can be traced back directly to Conservative policies.
West Virginia is failing due to the decimation of the coal industry...a Liberal policy, so we could add that state to the Lib side of the ledger.
Libs will also point to Mississippi, which was never affluent like so many of the states the Libs destroyed. Mississippi never successfully transitioned from ag to other industries. I cannot think of a single Conservative policy that caused that.
Libs love to point out 1 or 2 struggling Red cities & states, but when you compare 1 or 2 to 20+ Lib cities/states, its obvious that Liberal policies are overwhemingly detrimental to many many more places than Conservative policies are. Its NOT even close. Just compare net population inflows/outflows (minus immigration), to see which political system is inferior, and which is superior in the long run.
Every Lib that bails from their Lib city/state is living proof, and there are millions of them.
Education being poorly managed by liberals is a common conservative whine. WHY is it that IF it's all the fault of liberals that conservatives do NOTHING to try and correct the problem they allege?
Is it that conservatives see an uneducated public as an easier target to try and sell their conspiracy theories and fear mongering to in an attempt to gain power?
They're not fleeing failure. They're fleeing wild capitalist success. Mainly high housing costs. Which exists because demand is so high. Demand would not be so high and prices so high if they were failures. They're also where business and talent has congregated. Liberal policies that try to do something about those left behind don't cause the high housing costs/homelessness/etc, they are a reaction to it.
Or are they intentionally spreading the vote so that the popular vote and electoral vote will match?
Wow. Can't get much more delusional and wrong than this. Hate Capitalism? Move to Cuba or similar.
The problem is that they're fleeing their blue, high taxed and regulated states for red, low taxed and less regulated states but then register as a Dem. and vote for the same policies that they just fled from.
Yes, in my very small town the average age of the year-round residents is 64.5, and there are only 15 children under the age of 18 (!!!). However, there are many wealthy people who have summer homes in my section of the county; and In the November 2020 election, there were about 30 more people who voted in my town than there were year-round residents, and Biden beat Trump 50% to 48.5%.
At first I thought that this indicated a clear-cut case of election fraud, so I did a little digging. According to my research, if someone has a second home in another state, they can usually choose which state to vote in (but they can only choose one state), and this can even be done with an absentee ballot. As the majority of wealthy people are liberals, I have little doubt that many wealthy liberals who live in other states chose to vote "in" Wisconsin. (According to the following, in counties with a median household income of over $80,000, 59% voted Democrat compared to 39% who voted Republican. https://dailyyonder.com/the-inverted...an/2020/12/09/ )
Last edited by katharsis; 08-05-2021 at 06:54 AM..
FYI- If say 5% of the population leaves a state that is 60% democrat, it would be foolish to assume that the 5% that left are also 60% democrat without further analysis.
For example, if they're all retirees....or all young people etc. etc.
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You couldn't just screw up predominately black cities like Detroit, Baltimore, DC, Chicago, now you screw up Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, SF, and now Phoenix.
