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Old 04-10-2021, 07:31 PM
 
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Hopefully they do give it back.

This has absolutely nothing to do with "woke culture" run amok or reparations. This is directly righting a wrong committed to a family by the city, and their direct descendants would be the recipients.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-des...171900746.html

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The descendants of a Black family that once owned a thriving oceanfront resort in Manhattan Beach could get the property back under state legislation announced Friday.

Backers of the proposal, which will be introduced by state Sen. Steven Bradford (D-Gardena) on Monday, say it is the first step toward correcting a historic injustice when the city seized the resort of Charles and Willa Bruce and forced Black beachgoers out of town 100 years ago.
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:56 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Now THIS is the kind of reparations that I completely support!

An absolute theft and violation of rights, and it would benefit those who were directly harmed by it.
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Old 04-11-2021, 04:52 AM
 
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Hopefully they do give it back.

This has absolutely nothing to do with "woke culture" run amok or reparations. This is directly righting a wrong committed to a family by the city, and their direct descendants would be the recipients.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-des...171900746.html
And I agree with your stance on this. I know about what happened to Black families at Manhattan Beach. I hope this goes through and a wrong is righted.
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Old 04-11-2021, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Seacoast NH
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While I support the spirit of this, it seems like a double-edged sword to me. Are they going to give the property back and then hit them with a huge property tax bill each year?? I hope not but it is, after all, New York we are talking about here.
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Old 04-11-2021, 05:10 AM
 
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While I support the spirit of this, it seems like a double-edged sword to me. Are they going to give the property back and then hit them with a huge property tax bill each year?? I hope not but it is, after all, New York we are talking about here.
Manhattan Beach is in California.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhat...ch,_California
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Old 04-11-2021, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Currently in Florida for a little while
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If they get the property back, they'll probably immediately sell it to real-estate developers, become filthy rich, and then move to the nearest wealthy white neighborhood they can find.
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Old 04-11-2021, 05:20 AM
 
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If they get the property back, they'll probably immediately sell it to real-estate developers, become filthy rich, and then move to the nearest wealthy white neighborhood they can find.
Do you know that for a fact? Prove it. Or are you saying this as a side of the mouth comment based on racial emnity/resentment?
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Old 04-11-2021, 08:19 AM
 
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People getting their property back is a good thing. It should have happened sooner. On the flip side, this proves that nowhere in America was good for Black people during the 1920s. Black people tried to build something for themselves, and it was taken away. Manhattan Beach has a reputation today as some really cool beach town. Back in the 1920s, it was a Ku Klux Klan haven, literally. The Ku Klux Klan wasn't only harassing Black people in South. Blacks were being harassed by the Ku Klux Klan in California too. In fact, one of the reasons Bruce Beach was eventually taken away started with the KKK harassing Black resort vacationers. Basically, some people just didn't want Blacks around. Manhattan Beach eventually condemned Bruce's Beach and took everyone's land away.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce%27s_Beach
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Old 04-11-2021, 10:08 AM
 
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The city illegally took the property, it should be returned.

What they do with it afterwards is entirely their business. From that point forward, they should be taxed or whatnot in accordance with normal policy.
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Old 04-11-2021, 10:19 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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The city stole it. So they should get it back.

However, they will get a whopper of a tax bill.

I'm sure they will be forced to sell it immediately because the re tax bill will be obscene.
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