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Old 04-18-2021, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Waterbury CT
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You stated, "the dems will pass legislation, which will then be approved by SCOTUS." SCOTUS does not approve legislation. They only rule on the constitutionality of laws.
Yes - they rule on the constitutionality of laws - by approval and disapproval. Like here:

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/supreme-...law-msna437731

Maybe approved is not the best legal term, but that is what is commonly used, so I used it as well. If a case goes before a court, and the court rules in favor of a law or piece of legislation, it can be said the court approved the law/leg.
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Waterbury CT
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If the SC was 6-3 in Dems favor would this be a thing at all?

No.
Exactly.
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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This is the worst idea possible, but it's also 100% Constitutional. Congress has the power to change the number of justices anytime they want as long as they have the votes. The only thing that kept prior Congresses from doing so was the obvious desire to avoid making the Supreme Court a powerless puppet to Congress. They respected the sanctity of the Supreme Court too much to do it.

If the Democrats were smart, they would instead be focusing on undoing the damage they've done over the years. Changing from 3/4 majority to a majority of 60/100? That was the Democrats dumb idea. Changing it from 60/100 to a simple 51/100 majority? Again, it was the Democrats stupid idea. A better move would be to move it back to needing a full 2/3 vote in the Senate and sponsoring an Amendment to the Constitution setting the number on each federal court in stone, only to be overridden by a 2/3 majority vote in both houses. This requires both parties to approve of any new federal justice or judge. This provides a safeguard against court packing. This makes it so overtly political nominees would be impossible to confirm.

The problem is, the Democrats keep thinking that the GOP is dead or dying. So they change the rules of the game thinking they're the only ones who will use the changed rules. It keeps blowing up in their faces, and they never seem to learn.
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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America is trying to emulate both Venezuela and Turkey - two bastions of liberty, where both packed their Supreme Courts.


When the late Venezuelan socialist leader Hugo Chavez first won the election in 1999, the country's Supreme Court was independent. But after it issued several rulings that went against him and his administration, Chavez packed the court by passing a law expanding its size from 20 to 32 justices in 2004. Chavez got to pick the 12 new judges -- effectively stacking it in his favor.



"Since 2004, I found that Chavez and the government never lost a case. Not a single one," he said.It was only after Chavez stacked the court that, in 2006, he ran on a fully socialist platform. When he won re-election that year, the justices of the Supreme Court stood and chanted a rhyme to the effect of "great, Chavez is not leaving!"

After Chavez's 2006 win, he began confiscating thousands of private businesses – including media outlets, oil and power companies, mines, farms, banks, factories, and grocery stores.

"They basically took over the entire economy," Canova noted.



When court packing goes wrong: Venezuela and other Latin American countries offer sobering reality
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Old 04-18-2021, 10:14 AM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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Yes - they rule on the constitutionality of laws - by approval and disapproval. Like here:

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/supreme-...law-msna437731

Maybe approved is not the best legal term, but that is what is commonly used, so I used it as well. If a case goes before a court, and the court rules in favor of a law or piece of legislation, it can be said the court approved the law/leg.
This was poor wording by MSNBC. SCOTUS permitted Texas’s voter ID law for use in the last election. The case has not received a final ruling and is likely to return to the Supreme Court after the appeals court rules. The Supreme Court’s order did not deal with the issue of the law’s constitutionality.
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Old 04-18-2021, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Waterbury CT
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This was poor wording by MSNBC. SCOTUS permitted Texas’s voter ID law for use in the last election. The case has not received a final ruling and is likely to return to the Supreme Court after the appeals court rules. The Supreme Court’s order did not deal with the issue of the law’s constitutionality.
Right - that's what I was saying. Just like Trump's travel ban that was approved:

https://learningenglish.voanews.com/...-/4455477.html

and this that the other thing that was approved,

https://www.rbr.com/the-fccs-desired...otus-approved/

the legislation put forth by the dems (in thoery) will either be approved or not approved. And I feel that many of them will be approved if the dems have their way and pack the court.

Would it help if I said rule in favor of the proposed legislation? Same thing...

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Old 04-18-2021, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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Passing this will backfire against the democrats so badly they'll be lucky to control anything come 2024. They always have been shortsighted. It's because they always vote with their emotions instead of thinking what might benefit them more 10 years down the road instead of 10 months. They aren't at all strategic planners. It's like when they passed the 60 vote role for the Supreme Court and then it backfired on them later on... silly liberals.. why not just accept the rules as they are and run on policy choices instead of rigging the system because you know your policy choices are unpopular.


Doesn't matter though, US and all western nations with parasite illuminati central bankers are all dying cultures. China will unfortunately take over the world next, destroying the illuminati and CFR elites in the process. There may be a world war... china vs the CFR elites.. at some point in the future. Should be fun. We really do need to take out the CFR elites though, so I wish China luck. Which one is worse? It's a toss up. A strong US would be nationalist and expel the globalist CFR/central banker parasites (neoconservatives, neoliberals) but that will never happen. They are fully entrenched in this country.
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Old 04-18-2021, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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There is not enough support among the American people to increase the number of justices. It’s simply DOA. Only 38% want that. Not a chance it passes with that level of public support. But 63% want some kind of term or age limit, Biden should focus the effort there.
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Old 04-18-2021, 03:02 PM
 
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well let's don't be so obvious about it....jez

...and when it turns around and bites them in the a$$...like it always does....they will be the first to scream it's not fair
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