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Old 04-15-2021, 06:42 AM
 
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For most of the Trump presidency we heard dems claiming that Trump only had a ~35% approval rating — consisting of mostly far-right racist whackos.

However, the election was ultimately decided by ~44k votes over 3 states. And Trump received more votes than any sitting president in history.

Did Trump prove that approval ratings are hard to gauge or mostly irrelevant? I see no other possible conclusion.
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Old 04-15-2021, 06:51 AM
 
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He lost by 7 million votes.
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Old 04-15-2021, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Central Mass
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For most of the Trump presidency we heard dems claiming that Trump only had a ~35% approval rating — consisting of mostly far-right racist whackos.

However, the election was ultimately decided by ~44k votes over 3 states. And Trump received more votes than any sitting president in history.

Did Trump prove that approval ratings are hard to gauge or mostly irrelevant? I see no other possible conclusion.
Your post is mostly nonsense.
DJ didn't have a 35% approval rating. He had a 36% approval rating in late 2017. That was his nadir.
Here's some other numbers for you. No Sitting President has ever had a worse loss than DJ. No sitting president lost by a bigger margin. Only 3 elections were decided by a bigger margin. DJ lost by 7 times as many votes as Ford. DJ lost by double the votes GHWB did



Around erection day, DJ had a 45% approval rate.
He got 46% of the popular vote.

The actual conclusion is that popular vote and approval rate in 2020 was directly related.
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Old 04-15-2021, 06:57 AM
 
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Your post is mostly nonsense.
DJ didn't have a 35% approval rating. He had a 36% approval rating in late 2017. That was his nadir.
Here's some other numbers for you. No Sitting President has ever had a worse loss than DJ. No sitting president lost by a bigger margin. Only 3 elections were decided by a bigger margin. DJ lost by 7 times as many votes as Ford. DJ lost by double the votes GHWB did



Around erection day, DJ had a 45% approval rate.
He got 46% of the popular vote.

The actual conclusion is that popular vote and approval rate in 2020 was directly related.
He lost the electoral college by 44,000 votes. This is a fact.

He also got the most votes in history for a sitting president.

He did not lose by the biggest margin ever in terms of % of the vote. Not even close.
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Old 04-15-2021, 06:57 AM
 
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He lost by 7 million votes.
That’s like saying a basketball team lost by 10 rebounds.

Popular votes is irrelevant.
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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That’s like saying a basketball team lost by 10 rebounds.

Popular votes is irrelevant.
Not when you’re comparing the vote to approval ratings. Not voting for a sitting President is the ultimate approval/disapproval rating. Those approval ratings you quoted didn’t divide ratings by electoral districts, did they? Nope, it was a sample of the whole nation (also known as the popular vote). When the whole nation voted, he lost by 7 million votes.
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:10 AM
 
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Not when you’re comparing the vote to approval ratings. Not voting for a sitting President is the ultimate approval rating. Those approval ratings you quoted didn’t divide ratings by electoral districts, did they? Nope, it was a sample of the whole nation (also known as the popular vote). When the whole nation voted, he lost by 7 million votes.
So you are agreeing that Trump has shown approval rating is irrelevant in regards to American elections?

A 35% approval rating can get one within 44k votes (47% of the vote) of winning a national election. I see no other conclusion that can be made.
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:11 AM
 
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He barely won the 2016 electoral college by 80,000 votes. All this demonstrates is that the electoral college system is poorly representative of the popular vote.
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:13 AM
 
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He barely won the 2016 electoral college by 80,000 votes. So it goes.
Trump has won a national election and lost one by ~44k votes.

All with a ~35% approval rating.

Thus, approval rating is mostly irrelevant.
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:21 AM
 
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I will make this very simple for these Trumpsters. His approval rating was never above 50%. He did get 50% of the vote. He lost the election because of this. His average approval rating was pretty much in line with the percentage of the popular vote he received. This is not rocket science people.
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