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Old 04-21-2021, 10:50 PM
 
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From the time Trump came down the escalator we saw see mass hysteria. We saw humanity’s greatest political effort that lasted for 4 years. We saw America brought to its knees through divisive rhetoric and propaganda.

But in the end we saw the cause of such hysteria only defeated by 43k votes over 3 states. The senate is split. And the house is nearly evenly split.

If Trump was so bad, why didn’t we see a complete blowout...like him only winning a few states? As much as Trump was negatively discussed perhaps he should’ve won no states.

Why did it take such an effort over 4 years to like....barely beat Trump?
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Old 04-21-2021, 10:55 PM
 
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That's some odd cherry picking of result statistics.

The results showed it was Trump that was rejected rather than Republicans as a whole.
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Old 04-21-2021, 11:05 PM
 
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That's some odd cherry picking of result statistics.

The results showed it was Trump that was rejected rather than Republicans as a whole.
Trump easily got more votes than Obama ever did. He wasn't rejected.
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Old 04-21-2021, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
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From the time Trump came down the escalator we saw see mass hysteria. We saw humanity’s greatest political effort that lasted for 4 years. We saw America brought to its knees through divisive rhetoric and propaganda.

But in the end we saw the cause of such hysteria only defeated by 43k votes over 3 states. The senate is split. And the house is nearly evenly split.

If Trump was so bad, why didn’t we see a complete blowout...like him only winning a few states? As much as Trump was negatively discussed perhaps he should’ve won no states.

Why did it take such an effort over 4 years to like....barely beat Trump?
I’ve often wondered this as well. If the mainstream media covered Trump fairly during his tenue, would he still have lost the election?
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Old 04-21-2021, 11:23 PM
 
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That's some odd cherry picking of result statistics.

The results showed it was Trump that was rejected rather than Republicans as a whole.
After 4.5 years of humanity’s greatest political effort against well...anything — we have:

1. Presidential election decided by 43k votes over 3 states
2. A 50-50 split in the senate
3. House split 218-212

The energy put into anti-Trumping had nuclear fervor, but ended up having the pizazz of a mundane sparkler.
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Old 04-21-2021, 11:33 PM
 
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I’ve often wondered this as well. If the mainstream media covered Trump fairly during his tenue, would he still have lost the election?
Not a chance. And if Pelosi and her goon squad hadn’t wasted his entire first term on failed witch hunt after failed witch hunt and actually tried to be bi-partisan and work with him instead of against him, just think how much more good he would have done for this country. Even with all the opposition he faced he did a fantastic job. Hope he does make another run in 24. He has my vote for a third time if he does.
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Old 04-22-2021, 05:38 AM
 
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At least the "the dems stole the election" posts are entertaining. These are just pathetic.

It's like a fan of a team who loses a football game by three touchdowns trying to make a case that the game was close.
Apparently you don’t remember 2016 when democrats repeatedly declared that Hillary only lost by 77,000 votes.

Here is The Washington Times on the matter:

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That’s because the 2020 election was, in one critical way, even closer than 2016.

You may remember that four years ago, Trump managed to win the electoral college because he prevailed in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania by a combined total of just 77,000 votes. That tiny margin was enough to overcome Hillary Clinton’s 3 million-vote lead in the popular vote and make him president with 304 electoral votes.

In the time since, Democrats have cited that number over and over, often as proof of the Clinton campaign’s strategic missteps. How hard would it have been to grab 77,000 more votes? Couldn’t they have done it with a few more visits to those states?

So what’s the analogous magic number for 2020? It’s even smaller.
Final tallies are being completed; Georgia is conducting a hand recount, and there could be a recount in Wisconsin if the Trump campaign decides to pay for one. But here are the margins by which Biden won three critical states, as of Wednesday morning:

Arizona: 10,457
Georgia: 14,028
Wisconsin: 20,565
Total: 45,050
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...outputType=amp
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Old 04-22-2021, 05:52 AM
 
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From the time Trump came down the escalator we saw see mass hysteria. We saw humanity’s greatest political effort that lasted for 4 years. We saw America brought to its knees through divisive rhetoric and propaganda.

But in the end we saw the cause of such hysteria only defeated by 43k votes over 3 states. The senate is split. And the house is nearly evenly split.

If Trump was so bad, why didn’t we see a complete blowout...like him only winning a few states? As much as Trump was negatively discussed perhaps he should’ve won no states.

Why did it take such an effort over 4 years to like....barely beat Trump?
Republicans didn't vote for him in the numbers needed, it's a simple answer. Trump split the brand which split the votes enough to lose, it was his own undoing.

Remember all the RINO and "those are not Trump Republicans" posts on this forum. The post where Republicans were arguing with Republicans and some decided they could not vote to support Trump and all that comes with it? Those are part of the 43,000

Remember when Republicans started hard-lining everything Trump said to the point that disagreement meant you were kicked off the island within YOUR OWN PARTY? That lead to losing some of the 43,000

If you are mad that Trump lost and are a diehard that rages on forums, Real life, at work, at AOC yard signs? Then your part of why Trump lost 43,000.

Trump voters and Trump's inability to pull the party together lost him in the election.

See I agree with Trumpers that Biden didn't win.
Because Trump lost it himself..
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Old 04-22-2021, 06:04 AM
 
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Republicans didn't vote for him in the numbers needed, it's a simple answer. Trump split the brand which split the votes enough to lose, it was his own undoing.

Remember all the RINO and "those are not Trump Republicans" posts on this forum. The post where Republicans were arguing with Republicans and some decided they could not vote to support Trump and all that comes with it? Those are part of the 43,000

Remember when Republicans started hard-lining everything Trump said to the point that disagreement meant you were kicked off the island within YOUR OWN PARTY? That lead to losing some of the 43,000

If you are mad that Trump lost and are a diehard that rages on forums, Real life, at work, at AOC yard signs? Then your part of why Trump lost 43,000.

Trump voters and Trump's inability to pull the party together lost him in the election.

See I agree with Trumpers that Biden didn't win.
Because Trump lost it himself..
Division within the Republican Party was discussed throughly throughout the Trump presidency. The division was just another reason why it was NOT supposed to result in a national election with record turnout decided 43k votes.

Humanity’s greatest political effort opposing anything was not supposed to allow for Trump to be within 43k votes of winning the presidency for a SECOND time. The coverage of the Trump presidency is way out of whack with the actual results of the election.

Heck, popular opinion was that any presidential election with such a tremendous turnout automatically equals a blowout of the Republican candidate. But there was no blowout.

How does soooooo many people deciding they couldn’t support Trump result in an election that soooooo close? Did Trump pick up voters to replace the republicans he lost? He seems obvious that he did to some extent.
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Old 04-22-2021, 06:17 AM
 
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Division within the Republican Party was discussed throughly throughout the Trump presidency. The division was just another reason why it was NOT supposed to result in a national election with record turnout decided 43k votes.

Humanity’s greatest political effort opposing anything was not supposed to allow for Trump to be within 43k votes of winning the presidency for a SECOND time. The coverage of the Trump presidency is way out of whack with the actual results of the election.

Heck, popular opinion was that any presidential election with such a tremendous turnout automatically equals a blowout of the Republican candidate. But there was no blowout.

How does soooooo many people deciding they couldn’t support Trump result in an election that soooooo close? Did Trump pick up voters to replace the republicans he lost? He seems obvious that he did to some extent.
You are using some big rose-colored glasses to view how nasty Republicans got with themselves. Also Trump kicked the Libertarians out as well, those budget-watching, tariff-hating folk had to go. More lost votes.

Seems Republicans got so caught up in Trumpism that they forgot they needed those RINO and Libertarian votes.

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